ATI 9000 128MB Pro or All In Wonder 8500DV

[blclay23]

Which is faster for games? budget short......... I know 8500DV has more features like capturing, TV, Firewire, etc..... but I like to play games at the same time..........like UT, Jedi KNight2...etc........

Thanks

 

[CraigRT]

check the benchmarks for sure.. I believe the 8500 would have the edge...

budget short you say, but the Radeon 9000 I am also sure is alot less money though.

 

[bluemax]

If I could buy the 8500 AIW for the same price as the 9000 128MB I'd get it in a heartbeat! 🙂 As it is, the AIW costs significantly more but is both faster and has all the nifty video capturing stuff. 😉

Mind you, retail box Radeon 9000 Pro is pretty expensive.... for the same $250CDN you could easily get a TI4200, 4400 or something.

 

[rbV5]

The 9000 128 pro will be faster/cheaper than the 8500dv and has twice as much faster ram, but you shouldn't be comparing those 2 cards<apples & oranges>

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: rbV5
The 9000 128 pro will be faster/cheaper than the 8500dv and has twice as much faster ram, but you shouldn't be comparing those 2 cards<apples & oranges>

I think you got that backwards,the 8500 is faster than the 9000Pro in every benchmark I have seen.

 

[rbV5]

I think you got that backwards,the 8500 is faster than the 9000Pro in every benchmark I have seen.

The 9000 128 pro is only slightly slower than a Radeon 8500 128, and exceeds it in some benchmarks...the 8500dv is MUCH slower than a Radeon 8500 and a poor overclocker with 64MB ram clocked at 190MHz and the core at 230MHz vs 128 MB 275MHz core/memory clocks of the 9000pro, at higher resolutions the 9000 really starts top pull away, and reportedly a good overclocker as well.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: rbV5

I think you got that backwards,the 8500 is faster than the 9000Pro in every benchmark I have seen.

The 9000 128 pro is only slightly slower than a Radeon 8500 128, and exceeds it in some benchmarks...the 8500dv is MUCH slower than a Radeon 8500 and a poor overclocker with 64MB ram clocked at 190MHz and the core at 230MHz vs 128 MB 275MHz core/memory clocks of the 9000pro, at higher resolutions the 9000 really starts top pull away, and reportedly a good overclocker as well.

Got any links to prove what you're saying?

Even my Radeon 8500LE cloked at 250/200 beats the 9000Pro.

 

[rbV5]

Here shows the 9000pro 64 favorably against the 8500 in UT2003, Here shows the 8500dv fairing poorly against the AIW 8500 128 in 3DMARK 2001 SE, Here is a comparison between 8500 and 8500dv, the 8500dv comes in about ~ GF3 Ti200. Here the 8500dv~9000 pro 64 in AquaMark,Q3A head to head, very slightly faster in 3DMark 20001 SE, RTCW.

So pretty close between the 9000 pro 64, but the 128 should be a bit faster. Admitedly not a clear win over the 8500dv, but definately does not get hammered by the 8500dv either.

 

[sechs]

The 8500DV is underclocked when compared to the plain 8500.

If you could get the AIW 8500 128MB, that might be game, but I think that I'd go with the 9000.

 

[blclay23]

Thank you all, actually got the 8500dv already for $200. at Fry's, 9000 Pro 128mb is about $140 here in San Diego, I've read a lot of good reviews about 8500dv, its just that one of the stores here is selling the 9000 pro 128(OEM) for $100 and maybe add another 256DDR 333 to my system!!!!

Thanks again.

SPECS

Lian Li Aluminum Case
Pentium 4 2.4GHz 533Mhz
MSI 645E MB
256DDR 333
Plextor 48x Burner
Toshiba DVD 16x
Maxtor 133 40GB HD 7200rpm
SB Live 5.1
Viewsonic LCD
etc............
Cox Cable

 

[zippy]

Originally posted by: blclay23
Thank you all, actually got the 8500dv already for $200. at Fry's, 9000 Pro 128mb is about $140 here in San Diego, I've read a lot of good reviews about 8500dv, its just that one of the stores here is selling the 9000 pro 128(OEM) for $100 and maybe add another 256DDR 333 to my system!!!!

Thanks again.

SPECS

Lian Li Aluminum Case
Pentium 4 2.4GHz 533Mhz
MSI 645E MB
256DDR 333
Plextor 48x Burner
Toshiba DVD 16x
Maxtor 133 40GB HD 7200rpm
SB Live 5.1
Viewsonic LCD
etc............
Cox Cable

AHHH! You paid $200 for the 8500DV?! I'm selling mine for $160!!! Sonofalink...