athlon64 briefly retakes top 3dmark2001 score

Duvie

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Dual channel should help out from what I hear....However its a synthetic benchmark but I know most of the lame here swear by it!!! That s the end of my ppl who dwell on worthless synthetic marks that are about useless in comparing cross-platform systems and as we have seen in the past does not make accurate conclusions how a card does in actual real-world game play....I wish you ppl will get over this kick...

Why not talk about how the athlon64 will likely be the fastest in scientific calculations which are real-world and actually can help someone!!!
 

mechBgon

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I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.


That right something I actually use...Some meaningful test that can tell a user something!!! How about Winrar, FoldingHome and other distributed computing....
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?


With winzip I have tested my cou at 2.4ghz, 2.8ghz, 3.06ghz and 3.2ghz and there were decent gains so why I think you are right with winzip the compression portion of it is pure cpu power....writing the finished file is something different.

Not sure on the antivirus thing
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?
On the antivirus scanning, yes to some extent, but when the CPU gets its claws into a big file, it can spend a considerable amount of time chewing on it to see if it contains a virus (point in case: my ~500MB self-extracting Toolbox.exe file, a collection of Windows/Office administrative tools that I compressed so they'd fit onto a CD-R).

WinZip is mainly CPU-limited in the benchmark test I usually use, which is a maximum compression of the contents of the original UT Disc 1 CD using WinZip 8.1. I've tested with drives ranging from the so-so Seagate Barracuda ATA IV to the Cheetah 15k.3, and it's hinging on the CPU/memory. With a new memory controller design, it would be interesting to see what happens.

I also want a native gigabit Ethernet controller like the Intel CSA or the nForce3 integrated one, so I'm sort of in a holding pattern to see if they'll get those nForce3 Pro 250 boards out the door soon.

 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?


With winzip I have tested my cou at 2.4ghz, 2.8ghz, 3.06ghz and 3.2ghz and there were decent gains so why I think you are right with winzip the compression portion of it is pure cpu power....writing the finished file is something different.

Not sure on the antivirus thing

I like using DC as a benchmark. I keep a WU that I use to test my CPU's. My 2.4C's @ 3.3gig will do this particular WU in 7:02. My old 2.26 P4B was at 9:26 and the recently aquired XP1800+ software OC'd to 2gig only does it in 15:37. Mind you the box that the 1800+ is in is a headless client so it does not have anything running at startup, while the 2.4C's have quite a few things running.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?


With winzip I have tested my cou at 2.4ghz, 2.8ghz, 3.06ghz and 3.2ghz and there were decent gains so why I think you are right with winzip the compression portion of it is pure cpu power....writing the finished file is something different.

Not sure on the antivirus thing

I like using DC as a benchmark. I keep a WU that I use to test my CPU's. My 2.4C's @ 3.3gig will do this particular WU in 7:02. My old 2.26 P4B was at 9:26 and the recently aquired XP1800+ software OC'd to 2gig only does it in 15:37. Mind you the box that the 1800+ is in is a headless client so it does not have anything running at startup, while the 2.4C's have quite a few things running.

Which DC program are you using? Obviously not SETI since my XP3200 does a WU in less than 2 hours =)
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: orion7144
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mechBgon
I want to see how fast the A64 can blast through an antivirus scan (seriously) :D And also some WinZip.

Wouldn't hd speed be the bottleneck?


With winzip I have tested my cou at 2.4ghz, 2.8ghz, 3.06ghz and 3.2ghz and there were decent gains so why I think you are right with winzip the compression portion of it is pure cpu power....writing the finished file is something different.

Not sure on the antivirus thing

I like using DC as a benchmark. I keep a WU that I use to test my CPU's. My 2.4C's @ 3.3gig will do this particular WU in 7:02. My old 2.26 P4B was at 9:26 and the recently aquired XP1800+ software OC'd to 2gig only does it in 15:37. Mind you the box that the 1800+ is in is a headless client so it does not have anything running at startup, while the 2.4C's have quite a few things running.

Which DC program are you using? Obviously not SETI since my XP3200 does a WU in less than 2 hours =)

F@H and those times are min not hours.
 

flytek

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Originally posted by: touchmyichi
first time this has happened in a while. PS: I doubt it'll be brief :p

by the time i posted it intel p4 had reclaimed the crown. so it was very brief. however the boys pushed a little harder and scored this: 26336 (top scores pic link) full compare link

as soon as software learns to recognise sse2 in athlon 64 and with dual channel memory they should perform brilliantly in day to day appz
 

Jeff7181

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BTW... what's with "briefly" in the title? Nobody has any idea how the Prescott will perform... by the time it's out, AMD will have faster processors out that will most likely overclock higher as well. (since all you Intel guys like to point out that Intel won't be standing still while AMD ramps the A-64's clock speed)
 

Soulkeeper

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
lol @ 6MHz FSB

for those of you wondering about the fsb reading
I got this bit from the anandtech preview of the cpu:

"In normal setups (e.g. Athlon/P4), the CPU gets its clock from the FSB clock and multiplies it by the ?clock multiplier? to determine how fast its internal clock should be. With a 16x multiplier, when the external clock ticks once, the CPU ticks 16 times. However, with the Athlon 64/Opteron, there is no FSB, so the CPU must get its clock from somewhere. It doesn't produce it internally; instead, it derives it from the native HT (HyperTransport) frequency, which is 200MHz, but because of the bus' nature, it runs at an effective 800MHz."

this is probably because 3DMark2001 was released before the ahtlon64 was even being talked about
so just ignore the number or run 3DMark2003 which I think is what they shoulod be comparing with the latest graphics card on each system and same hard drives. mem amount, etc



that's a nice score tho