Athlon64 3200+ vs P42.6

[Praetor]

I just picked up a A64 3200+ and K8NGM-V combo. I'm debating on whether to keep it or give it to my mom as a replacement pc. It's a toss up between a P4 2.6 with a stock OEM board from Gateway.

If I keep it, it will be a mythtv front end playing back HD, mpeg2 and xvid (both using postprocessing to clean up for a 42" tv). My current PC has been choking doing post processing on some files and I was wondering if the A64 would fair any better.

Any general ideas?

 

[Stumps]

keep the A64...it's a mile faster than the P4.

 

[myocardia]

An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

 

[Praetor]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

Sweet. Thanks guys for the replies!

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Stumps
ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

We aren't talking about gaming here. And I took a look at some benchmarks. It seems that a 3200 isn't as fast as I thought it was, in video encoding. As a matter of fact, it just gets creamed in Xvid encoding.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Stumps
ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

We aren't talking about gaming here. And I took a look at some benchmarks. It seems that a 3200 isn't as fast as I thought it was, in video encoding. As a matter of fact, it just gets creamed in Xvid encoding.

sure a P4@3ghz+ will perform better in some encoding tasks, but compared to a 2.6ghz P4...that A64 will leave it for dead in every discpline.

 

[A554SS1N]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Stumps
ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

We aren't talking about gaming here. And I took a look at some benchmarks. It seems that a 3200 isn't as fast as I thought it was, in video encoding. As a matter of fact, it just gets creamed in Xvid encoding.

sure a P4@3ghz+ will perform better in some encoding tasks, but compared to a 2.6ghz P4...that A64 will leave it for dead in every discpline.

Agreed!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

 

[Praetor]

lol this is a showdown of old cpu's. Looks like keeping the A64 really is in my best interests, unless I come across a higher clocked Prescott on the cheap over the next few days.

 

[apoppin]

all said ... yes, keep the a64 !

!!

good choice
:thumbsup:

forget PresHot



about the only P4 that will easily beat that 3200+ - in games - is a highly oc'd NW or stock EE

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

at one point you said i beat yours ... what was it?



and *hold on* ....

i can get my P4EE to 3.8Ghz on a cool day
:Q

that'll easily get another hundred 'marks'
:roll:

:laugh:

 

[bob4432]

when i switched from my p4 2.8c to a opty144 (1.8GHz, 1MB cache) my encoding times went down a lot using fairuse wizard in xvid/divx and x264 formats. i don't remember the exact numbers because this was quite some time ago, but it was to the point that i was very impressed an happy with the change. plus the a64 has the dynamic multiplier/V change to drop some power/heat when you don't need the cpu as much. i would just keep the a64

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

at one point you said i beat yours ... what was it?



and *hold on* ....

i can get my P4EE to 3.8Ghz on a cool day
:Q

that'll easily get another hundred 'marks'
:roll:

:laugh:

roflrofl.... you two act like little kids saying he said, she said... hahaha..

But to be honest id id keep the A64.

NF3 > Via chipset or i800 series chipsets.

Also, you can OC that A64 and it should be > then a P4 EE.

<and then the X2 came along and spanked both of them combined>

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

at one point you said i beat yours ... what was it?



and *hold on* ....

i can get my P4EE to 3.8Ghz on a cool day
:Q

that'll easily get another hundred 'marks'
:roll:

:laugh:

roflrofl.... you two act like little kids saying he said, she said... hahaha..

But to be honest id id keep the A64.

NF3 > Via chipset or i800 series chipsets.

Also, you can OC that A64 and it should be > then a P4 EE.

<and then the X2 came along and spanked both of them combined>

actually it's a semi-private *joke* that has been going on a Long time ... in Video ...
good ole' Stumps decided to drag it kicking and screaming into CPUs

and X2 is creamed by Core2Duo which itself is gonna be obsolete when QC hits it's 'stride'

:music:
.. and the beat goes on ...:music:


:beer:

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

at one point you said i beat yours ... what was it?



and *hold on* ....

i can get my P4EE to 3.8Ghz on a cool day
:Q

that'll easily get another hundred 'marks'
:roll:

:laugh:

roflrofl.... you two act like little kids saying he said, she said... hahaha..

But to be honest id id keep the A64.

NF3 > Via chipset or i800 series chipsets.

Also, you can OC that A64 and it should be > then a P4 EE.

<and then the X2 came along and spanked both of them combined>

actually it's a semi-private *joke* that has been going on a Long time ... in Video ...
good ole' Stumps decided to drag it kicking and screaming into CPUs

and X2 is creamed by Core2Duo which itself is gonna be obsolete when QC hits it's 'stride'

:music:
.. and the beat goes on ...:music:


:beer:

it was getting boring in video

...so I put the arguement where it belonged

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: myocardia
An A64 3200 is about as fast as a 2.8 Ghz Northwood, or a 3.0 Ghz Preshott, with all at stock speeds. The good thing about the A64, though, is the motherboard you have for it will allow you to overclock it considerably, which will extend it's performance lead over the P4 you have by a considerable amount.

ummm no, you might want to have a look at some benchmarks, a 3200+ is considerably faster than a 3ghz P4 and even a 3.2ghz P4.

I had the same arguement with Apoppin in the video forum in regards to the skt 754 3000+ and P4@3.4ghz....which i did prove that a 3000+ is barely faster than a 3.4ghz Northwood and Prescott based P4...which I should know considering I have rigs with all 3 CPU's in them, and at stock speeds, the A64 comes out the winner.

in GAMES ... *only* ... my 2.80c at 3.31G was about the same as a stock a643000+

... and when my OC'd 3.4EE P4 exceeded your old A64's 3DMarkO5 score you upgraded your CPU :Q
:roll:

:laugh:

you never got past my A64's 3dmark score :|

...you only came within 50 point's

at one point you said i beat yours ... what was it?



and *hold on* ....

i can get my P4EE to 3.8Ghz on a cool day
:Q

that'll easily get another hundred 'marks'
:roll:

:laugh:

only when I was running at stock speed and you were comparing you OC to it...

everybody knows that I have a bigger E-peenie than you

and I can pull more chicks with my PC than you can with your's.

 

[apoppin]

OK .. thanks for the *confirmation* that i DID beat your a64 system

:thumbsup:

you already *admitted* the shame drove you to upgrade your CPU and MB
... to an Assrock
:roll:

so ... we both have *interim* upgrades ... we'll have to compare again when we do the *Quadcore thing*

. . . and you DO have a much [much] more active *imagination* than i ... i'll admit that
:Q

:laugh:

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: apoppin
OK .. thanks for the *confirmation* that i DID beat your a64 system

:thumbsup:

You only beat my 2.0ghz when you were running at 3.7ghz

you already *admitted* the shame drove you to upgrade your CPU and MB
... to an Assrock
:roll:

so ... we both have *interim* upgrades ... we'll have to compare again when we do the *Quadcore thing*

I look forward to that, I should have a decent 965P board and PCI-E videocard by then

. . . and you DO have a much [much] more active *imagination* than i ... i'll admit that
:Q

:laugh:

must be the ADD...


....oh wait I don't have that

 

[Cookie Monster]

Is that 2.6ghz a NW? or in other words 2.6C? If it is, then it should be much easier to OC above 3ghz.

From my understanding, A64s do perform better than P4s in gaming (depends usually on the game, but people should be more concerned about GPU performance for gaming most the time), but when it comes to multitasking/video encoding the P4s are generally better because of hyper threading technology. This nifty piece of technology makes overall user productivity more "smooth" than A64s.

So its really up to you.