Athlon64 3200+ compared to Barotn 3200+

[crowdx]

Hi,
just wondering if anyone has any views on how much of a speed difference there would be between an Athlon64 and a Barton 3200+ ?
I currently have a Barton 2500+ clocked up to a 3200+ with a 400 fsb and I am getting a new cpu and board for another machine and so I am wondering if the extra cost is worth it?
Anyone?

 

[Dufrane]

From benchmarks that I have seen the Athlon 64 will put the smack down on the barton 3200. There is no comparison. the A64 is a much faster processor.

 

[crowdx]

Any direct benches against the BArton 3200 and the Athlon64 3200 ? The Anandtech review of the 3400 was all against P4s ?

 

[high]

Actually a 3200+ vs. a 2.3 2500+ (mine) had less than 5% (4.34 to be exact) in all benches my buddy and I used.....
SiSoft, PCMark, 3DMark (popped my card into his box and took out his 9200 ), as well as some minor encoding. I know these benches aren't the BEST...but I find Sandra to be a very good comparison for CPU's..

 

[crowdx]

A 3200+ Athlon 64? I looked at some benches on Toms Hardware and it looked like the 64 blew away the Barton, especially in memory bandwidth.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: high
Actually a 3200+ vs. a 2.3 2500+ (mine) had less than 5% (4.34 to be exact) in all benches my buddy and I used.....
SiSoft, PCMark, 3DMark (popped my card into his box and took out his 9200 ), as well as some minor encoding. I know these benches aren't the BEST...but I find Sandra to be a very good comparison for CPU's..

An Athlon 3200+ that he is asking about runs at 2.2 ghz, not 2.3. If you are going to OC the 2500 or the 3200 XP, you need to OC the Athlon64 also to be fair. I think you will find overall that Athlon64 3200+ handily beats the XP 3200+. I think both are in Anandtech 3200 review.
Here is one page from the review

 

[crowdx]

Hey Markfw900
you seem to own both the Barton 3200+ and the Athlon 64, is there a feeling of more speed? Can you flick through multiple windows fast and multitask better? I know when I moved from an Athlon 1600 xp up to the Barton 2500+ at stock speed it was a lot faster, apps popped up that I would normally have to wait for with the 1600, is this the same with the 64 over the Barton 3200+ ?

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I believe this review has P4 and Bartons throughout.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: crowdx
Hey Markfw900
you seem to own both the Barton 3200+ and the Athlon 64, is there a feeling of more speed? Can you flick through multiple windows fast and multitask better? I know when I moved from an Athlon 1600 xp up to the Barton 2500+ at stock speed it was a lot faster, apps popped up that I would normally have to wait for with the 1600, is this the same with the 64 over the Barton 3200+ ?

My 2600+ OC'ed isn't quite a 3200,as it runs 192x11 which is a tad shy of a real 3200+ that runs at 2200. However, there is a fair difference between my two, depending on what you are going. In games, it's a lot, but the video card makes comparison for me a little tuff. If I had to choose and had the money, of cource I would get the Athlon64 3000+ and OC it (which I did), but if you already have a 3200+, I don't think it would be worth the increase unless (like me) you have the disposable income to buy and try and play at will.(almost, not a millionare)

 

[DerwenArtos12]

I agree with mark here. if you have a barton now then wait. Prices will fall dramatically as new chips come out. Just look at how much the A64 3200 has already dropped since it's inception.

 

[crowdx]

Well this is actually not a real upgrade, I am buying the board and cpu for another machine, I have the rest of the hardware lying around that will make it a complete machine. So my thought now is whether to go real cheap and but an Athlon 1800 and overclock it or to buy the Athlon 64. If I overclock the 1800 I will stay with my current setup, if I buy the Athlon 64 I would use that as the primary machine. Currently I have an Athlon 1600 xp, a Thunderbird 900 and a PII 350. The 1600xp has a Radeon 8500 in it and 512mb ram, whereas my main machine runs with a 9800 Pro with 1.5 gig of memory. The Barton is an overclocked 2500+ running at 2200mhz FSB is at 200 mhz.
So as you can see, it is a choice of whether to build the new machine as a second machine or to use the machine as an upgrade.
My use for the machine which is going to be the secondary machine will be video editing and as a PVR machine.

 

[Markfw]

My use for the machine which is going to be the secondary machine will be video editing and as a PVR machine.

First I'm not sure what PVR is, and I don't know if I read correctly that what you want to buy is for the video editing, but I can tell you the Athlon64 is much better at video editing that the XP series. If you are adding a machine, based on this new input, you may want to consider the A64.

 

[crowdx]

Personal Video Recorder
I intend to add in Hauppauge PVR 250 tv card for recording from TV.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I ran some benchmarks of a 2.43ghz Barton vs A64 3000+@various speeds here The Barton is remarkedly strong thanks to the strong IPC, raw clockspeed and good bandwidth the dual channel nF2 provides. For media encoding, distributed computing, and synthetic benchmarking the Barton@2.2+ghz is a good choice from a price/performance perspective. For actual games though, I've found the A64 to be perceptably faster, plus it's running@2.2ghz-1.5v,49c *Venus 12@3600-3800rpm* SETI load 440DDR, instead of 1.85v, 55c-57c*AeroFlow 5500+rpm* Seti load 422DDR, and come summer that'll make a big difference here in Florida :sun:

Since you did spend the bank on a 9800pro though, you must be a fairly serious gamer, in which case demote the Barton to HTPC/PVR duties and build an A64 to match that 9800pro and lose nothing since the A64@2.2ghz will stay with the Barton@2.2ghz in those areas the Barton is strong, but lay the smackdown on the Barton in gaming performance with both running 2.2ghz :beer:

 

[crowdx]

I presume SSE2 support in the Athlon 64 will also help in Photoshop 8 etc?
Any recommendations on a board for the Athlon 64?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Shuttle AN50R for top notch overclocking, or Albatron K8X800 ProII for mild overclocking and great feature set with hardware audio at a great price would both be good picks.