athlon xp1800+ "guaranteed" to 2600+

Wigwam

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overclockers in the UK are selling a modified Athlon xp1800+ which they guarantee overclocked to 2600+
it is at a very attractive price!
as it is the same price as a thoroughbred b 2100+, is it better to get this modified chip or get the stock 2100+? what i mean to ask is does the 2100+ "routinely" overclock to 2600+ equivalent or higher?
I confess i still havent got a complete handle on equating "+" ratings with actual clock speeds yet so wisers counsel much appreciated! :D
 

Blooz1

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"Modified" to do 12.5x166? And they are charging extra for that?

There's a sucker born every minute!
 

TerryMathews

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Ehh, if you're into not gambling, methinks that $110 US + S&H is very reasonable for a chip that is guaranteed to run at 2.075GHz. Considering that OEM 2100+s that are not tested are $83...
 

MoFunk

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How can they guarantes that this chip will run this fast in YOUR system. I have a 1700XP that does 2200mhz so far in my system. I really do not think I can get that high with my old motherboard. So how would they guarantee that?
 

TerryMathews

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If a chip will run 100% stable at 2GHz, it will hit that speed in any motherboard, assuming the same Vcore, a decent power supply to the processor, and decent cooling.

You may have to make alterations to your chip if your motherboard does not support multiplier control and does not have stability at high FSB settings. But that would be a failing of your motherboard and not the chip.

Going in, you know that this chip is guaranteed to hit 2GHz. Find out if your motherboard can hit a 166FSB with stability. If it can't, see about controlling the multiplier. If your mobo lacks multiplier controls, you'll have to invest in a Golden Socket (out of production - $50+), or cut the bridges by hand. Both are workable.
 

MoFunk

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The biggest problem that I had is the 8K3A+ had a 1/5 divider and the components that I had did not like to run out of spec. Now I have the 8RDA+ and the PCI and AGP runs at default regardless of what I run the FSB at. With the 8K3A+ I could get 180FSB but with a 10 mult ONLY. This gave me 1.8. With the 8RDA+ I am at 200x11.5.
 

TerryMathews

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Right, but you do understand that the processor will be stable irregardless as to whether you're running 2GHz by doing 20x100MHz or 10x200MHz, right?

Think of this processor like buying PC3200 RAM. Takes one question out of the equation. It's rated for 2GHz, so as long as you're not over that threshold, you know that it's something else making your system flakey.
 

bgeh

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i have a chip that's guarenteed to do 2.5GHz@1.825v and i bought it for $57:D

:)
 

BoomAM

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Actually OC UK are quite good. They guarantee the CPU to go to that speed. OC UK are a very good retailer. Almost all of my current PC components are from there.