Athlon XP Mobile the best replacement for XP?

[LucJoe]

My xp 2100+ recently fried, and I need a replacement that will work on my trusty EpoX 8RDA+ board.

Would the mobile xp be the best choice? If so, which speed is the best o/cer? And is there a cheap hsf that could go with it?

Been out of the computer hardware stuff for a while and all the new choices are confusing

 

[MercenaryForHire]

XP-M 2500+'s are notoriously good OCers.

- M4H

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
XP-M 2500+'s are notoriously good OCers.

 

[frootbooter]

I've got my mobile 2600 running at 2.6ghz... 2.6 is pretty common on these guys.

I'd definately buy one, they're pretty good for the money.

 

[JackBurton]

I've got a 2600+ and it's a steal at $97! Get it!

 

[Zebo]

Yes. Unlocked, cherry picked and cheap. What's not to like.

I'd get the 2400 if you want stable 2300 Mhz. Cost is $77 <<< best value P/P
I'd get the 2500 if you want stable 2400 Mhz. Cost is $85
I'd get the 2600 if you want stable 2500 Mhz. Cost is $95

 

[Zap]

Is your 8RDA+ volt-modded? If not, you'll probably top out at around 185MHz FSB. Also, the max multiplier allowed with a mobile in BIOS is 12.5, making for around 2.3GHz. Thus, save your money and get the mobile 2400+, not any of the faster ones.

 

[wchou]

fried already? what a shame. try sending it in for replacement, worth a try. what do you have to lose?

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: Zap
Is your 8RDA+ volt-modded? If not, you'll probably top out at around 185MHz FSB. Also, the max multiplier allowed with a mobile in BIOS is 12.5, making for around 2.3GHz. Thus, save your money and get the mobile 2400+, not any of the faster ones.

There's an easy way around that x12.5 limit ,simply join 2 of the cpu pins with conductive paint
That's what I had to do with my Asus A7N8X v1.04

Btw I've got an XPM 2500 @2.58GHz @1.71v
(15x172)

 

[Pohemi]

I recently went with a 2400+ mobile. I've currently got it set to the same speed(2.5 ghz) as my buddy with a 2600+ mobile. If you go for the 2400+ though, make sure it's a 35W(1.35 stock Vcore) chip and not the 45W. As far as the HSF is concerned, I wouldn't be too concerned about saving money. It's better to make sure you buy a decent one and be able to have peace of mind IMO. I use a Thermaltake Volcano 12 extreme, and I rarely have to turn the controller knob up past half way. You can get one for <$35 at Newegg.

 

[Pohemi]

Sorry bout the double post; I was just wondering...where can you still buy a mobile 2500+? I haven't seen any new ones for sale in a while. And oh yeah...stay away from the mobile 3000's. I've gone through two and they don't OC for crap. :disgust:

 

[mistue]

when choosing a mobile cpu how do u know. name? number? am not sure any light thanks

 

[frootbooter]

Newegg's got 2500 mobiles in stock still.

 

[LucJoe]

So, the 35W is better than the 45W, right?

I have some AS5 sitting around, and a Thermalright SLK-9xx Heatsink that I was using on my old 2100+. Along with a powerful adjustable fan i've been using with it.

I still have no idea what went wrong with my old processor.. it's been going strong for 2 years now, maybe it had just run it's course.

Anyway, would my old cooling setup work ok with this 2400-M (35W) from Newegg? If not, is there another better option from Newegg's short list of XP-M's?

Thanks again for everyone's helpful replies

 

[Assimilator1]

That HSF will be more than enough for an XPM

I don't get your last question btw ,the XPMs all use the same cooler fittings/type

mistue
Odd question ,its sold as an XP 2400/2500 (etc) mobile.
But yes there is an 'M' in the model number on the chip ,also the voltage code will reflect there lower running vcore,except the XPM 3000

Pohemi420
Interesting to see that newegg list the XPM 3000 as having a def vcore of 1.65 instead of the usual 1.45.
You'd think with the number of cpus hitting way over 2.2GHz on 1.65 that they could run them at 2.2GHz below 1.65 ,not to mention they wouldn't run any cooler than the desktop variant.

What speed did you get out of the XPM 3000s?

 

[LucJoe]

Rereading my post, it looks like my last question didn't make much sense at all

What I meant was.. Is there a different option in the XP-M line that would work better with my circumstances? (Someone mentioned being stuck with a lower fsb/multiplier due to my motherboard)

Ordered the XP-M 2400 (35W) from newegg last night, hoping to at least max out my board with it will report with results

 

[Assimilator1]

As I already replied to zap ,its very easy to get around the x12.5 limit.
The problem exists with all XPMs AFAIK ,so not getting around it like that

And don't worry about the ~185MHz FSB limit ,the loss in performance will be very small &amp; the cost of a 200MHz capable skt A mbrd &amp; DDR400 RAM is just not worth it.
You could try the volt mod I guess ,I might for my A7N8X ,but then again I don't expect my DDR333 Crucial RAM will go much above 185MHz anyway *shrug*

I hope you get a much better XPM 2400 ,than I did! .I RMA'ed mine today

 

[WobbleWobble]

Don't buy a mobile chip expecting a guaranteed 2.4GHz or whatever. I've seen many friends and people on this forum who bought chips expecting a guaranteed overclock and didn't get it, leaving them very disappointed.

Good luck though!

 

[Zardnok]

I have an XP-Mobile 2600 that has the stock multiplier set at 15X. It came stock at 15X133 and easily handled 15X-166 with my old PC2700 memory and 1.7volts.

I have upgraded the memory and am running it now at 12.5X202 with 1.75 volts and I get idle temps of 28 with full load temps right at 40.

If I were in the market for another Mobile chip, I would either go 35w 2400 or 45w 2600. I would skip the 2500. The choice comes down to whether the extra performance is worth 20 bucks or not.

 

[Assimilator1]

Why skip the 2500? ,its still got a very good chance of overclockiing to high levels &amp; its £9 cheaper.

 

[Pohemi]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
That HSF will be more than enough for an XPM

I don't get your last question btw ,the XPMs all use the same cooler fittings/type

mistue
Odd question ,its sold as an XP 2400/2500 (etc) mobile.
But yes there is an 'M' in the model number on the chip ,also the voltage code will reflect there lower running vcore,except the XPM 3000

Pohemi420
Interesting to see that newegg list the XPM 3000 as having a def vcore of 1.65 instead of the usual 1.45.
You'd think with the number of cpus hitting way over 2.2GHz on 1.65 that they could run them at 2.2GHz below 1.65 ,not to mention they wouldn't run any cooler than the desktop variant.

What speed did you get out of the XPM 3000s?

Yeah...the mobile 3000 is a DTR(desktop replacement) chip, whatever that means. I think all DTR chips are 1.65 stock Vcore. I've pretty much finished testing the M3000 I just got, and would NOT recommend it to anyone hoping to OC. I get just as high a clock speed out of my 35W 2400 mobile chip, and at a lower Vcore to boot (no pun intended). I've pushed the 3000 up to 2.5 ghz, but the Vcore was set to 1.75. I can get JUST under 2.5 ghz on my 2400 mobile at a Vcore of 1.675. :roll: