Athlon XP 3200+ vs. Pentium 4 2.8C

[Mik3y]

reason y i'm posting about the vs type things is because i'm gonna get a comp for graduation gift from my uncle, so i might decide not to upgrade myself or overclock my 1800+ over the summer. the xp is priced about $10 more then the 2.8C w/ hyperthreading, but speed wise, how will they compare without gaming or encoding for instance? i know that the xp is better for games, and the p4 is better for encoding (though i dont encode).

 

[Duvie]

What do you do???

Distributed Computing...

Photo or Video Editing...

Do you plan on ocing any???

Hyperthreading is the key here then in my opinion....

 

[Whitedog]

i know that the xp is better for games, and the p4 is better for encoding (though i dont encode)

If you know... then they do you ask? Just make your desicion on what you know. Do you need to be given a reason why to buy one over the other? I believe most all articles (where you got the information you already have) give you enough reasons to buy one over the other.

All you're going to get here are biased opinions.

:laugh:

 

[jpeyton]

Athlon 64 3000+

 

[Fricardo]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Athlon 64 3000+

Actually 64 2800+ if he's looking in the 3200+, 2.8C price range. But the Athlon 64 would be my suggestion as well.

 

[Duvie]

Actually the XP 3200+ is not necessarily better in gaming...check the reviews....

BUt the A64's would definitely be better then the 2.8c in gaming however you did not mention that option....I was answering from the 2 choices you gave me....

The key is really what else are you going to use this for, and do you multiitask quite a bit???

 

[Vette73]

I would NOT get a AthlonXP 3200+. If goign socket A then get a Mobile XP and overclock it.

If not overclocking and you want to spend that much get a Athlon64

 

[Mik3y]

yes, i do multitask a bit and i play games, and i will get into video editing and etc over the summer, but i dont plan on overclocking. thing is, i really need to keep this all cheap, because if i decide to go with the a64 2800+, then it will cost about $50 more for the cpu, fan, and $100 motherboard. anyways, i've always been an amd fan, but i also like intel too. the reason y i ask all this is because i dont keep up with intel stuff too much, and i was wondering if the hyperthreading itself is a better benefit then the 3200+. i'm assuming so.

 

[myocardia]

In this instance, there is no comparison. The 2.8C wins on all counts, though it's probably quite a bit closer to a tie in gaming. Besides, pre-built computers never come with the nForce2 chipset, and that's the only socket A chipset you want to own. I haven't owned an Intel system since my Celeron300a@450, but I would take the 2.8C 100 times out of 100.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: myocardia
In this instance, there is no comparison. The 2.8C wins on all counts, though it's probably quite a bit closer to a tie in gaming. Besides, pre-built computers never come with the nForce2 chipset, and that's the only socket A chipset you want to own. I haven't owned an Intel system since my Celeron300a@450, but I would take the 2.8C 100 times out of 100.

that was a nice system back in the day had one meself.


OP, Barton 3200 vs 2.8C the 2.8C wins 8/10 benches in the "real slim shady" review. Same price no question get the 2.8C.

 

[canadianpsycho]

Hyperthreading is king...

Last night I was simultaneously:

-D/Ling some large files
-Extracting some large files
-FTPing some large files
-Listening to MP3s
-Burning DVDs and CDs
-Installing some programs

Not a hiccup... I'm absolutely in love with the P4's ability to multitask.

 

[Mik3y]

well, i figured out taht the xp 3200+ and the a64 2800+ are the same price, so 2800+ it is. since i use the computer for basically everything, games, encoding, video editing, music, multitasking, should i go for the p4 2.8c then?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
well, i figured out taht the xp 3200+ and the a64 2800+ are the same price, so 2800+ it is. since i use the computer for basically everything, games, encoding, video editing, music, multitasking, should i go for the p4 2.8c then?

Pretty much a tossup in most apps.....The HT is still better with the p4c and multitasking, but go with what you feel comfortable here....Both will take care of your needs just fine...

 

[ScrapSilicon]

pre-built computers never come with the nForce2 chipset

you must be stuck in 2002 for prebuilts..all but Dell have nF2(albeit with IGP mostly)matx platforms available..even as low as $399 refurbed

 

[RussianSensation]

A64 2800+ or 2.8C > XP3200+

your argument about buying a new cpu fan and motherboard applies to either purchase doesn't it? Plus you don't need a $50 cpu heatsink for 2800+ a $10 will do and a good motherboard for all 3 setups costs $100 so the price is the same. But 2.8C@3.5ghz sure does sound nice if you ever decide to venture into overclocking. A64 has the 64-bit operating system that might give it a boost so it is a beauty. AXP3200+ has nothing...esp since mobilies are way better at less cost.

 

[Mik3y]

well, i dont plan on overclocking, because the case i would use would be the antec aria. hte motherboard would be mATX, which are around $92 for the intel and amd ones.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
well, i dont plan on overclocking, because the case i would use would be the antec aria. hte motherboard would be mATX, which are around $92 for the intel and amd ones.

Well people do not overclock for reasons like stability issues and fear of ruining components or not knowing how, but what case you have has no effect on your average overclocker. Even if you have 0 fans but 1 Zalman 7000 you'll be able to take 2.8 to 3.2+ ghz easily. So i am sure your case has adequate for airflow if that is what you were implying. For a hardcore overclock 7 fans will definately help but you arent going for speed records....well anyways.

AXP (socket 462), P4 (socket 478) and A64 (socket 754) all use ATX format motherboards and Abit NF7-S, Abit IS7 and AOpen AK86-L all cost around $100 and are excellent boards for either platform so the pricing in terms of motherboard for each brand is almost identical.

CPU prices:

Athlon XP 3200+ $187 (retail box)
P4 2.8 800FSB "C" $177 (retail box)
A64 2800+ $187 (retail box)

Motherboard prices:
Abit NF7-S v2.0 $89
Abit IS7 $92
AOpen A86-L $95

- You can buy identical ram for each system so price for that component is irrelevant
- Since you wont overclock stock cooling is fine for all 3 systems

Total Price: AMD XP = $276, P4 = $269, A64 = $282

Since the prices are so close and P4 or A64 are better than AXP that one is ruled out on all accounts.

P4 has HT which is a sure boost but A64 is good for office apps and games and 64-bit OS will boost its speed in the future plus you'll be able to upgrade to A64 3400+ if you ever feel the need. These factors along with the fact that you are an AMD fanboy make me think A64 is then a no-brainer choice for you - and a good choice at that.