Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton" Core wit 512kb L2 Cache.....already shipping!!

vikash4900

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The new Ace from AMD is here...

Athlon XP 3000+ is here and available for purchase!! It will ship same day for you.....provided you have 630+ Green Bucks to spare!!

AXDA3000BOX, BARTON CORE, 512K CACHE W/ QUANTISPEED ARCHITECHTURE AT 2.16GHZ RETAIL BOX (333 fsb) !!

You can find it on Pricewatch here

Beware P4 3.06 GHz HT!!


Vikash
 

jiffylube1024

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ETA is early February on those sites. Wow, this is definately an Ace in the hole for AMD. I didn't know Barton was this close! With 512K of L2, this is seriously going to be a killer CPU. Obviously Intel will counter with something in the order of 3.2-3.6 GHz (and probably top-to-bottom HT as they have been saying), but man this is one win for competition!

I just ordered a 2100+ AIUHB (which is just folly since I'm a moderate gamer, and I really don't think I need it over my Tbred A @ 1.8 GHz), but these CPU's look very nice! I'm definately not going to get one for awhile, but I'm happy to know AMD isn't floundering!

btw, does anyone know if Barton has SSE2 along with 512K L2?
 

acid16

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I don't understand....... how can it be 2.16GHz if the Athlon XP 2800+ is 2.25GHz????????
 

Wolfsraider

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Originally posted by: acid16
I don't understand....... how can it be 2.16GHz if the Athlon XP 2800+ is 2.25GHz????????

the extra cache gives that much of an improvement is what i have heard
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: acid16
I don't understand....... how can it be 2.16GHz if the Athlon XP 2800+ is 2.25GHz????????

when amd released the palomino.. the lowest speed they released was 1.33 ghz even though the t-bird was up to 1.4 ghz...

i dunno... i guess they just do that :confused:
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: acid16
I don't understand....... how can it be 2.16GHz if the Athlon XP 2800+ is 2.25GHz????????

They factor in the performance increase of the 512 L2 cache into the PR Rating. They did the same thing with the 333mhz FSB T-bred's. Clock speeds are slightly lower to compensate for the increased performance of the increased bandwidth we all see when we OC our FSB from 133mhz to 166mhz.

Chiz
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: acid16
I don't understand....... how can it be 2.16GHz if the Athlon XP 2800+ is 2.25GHz????????

I didn't know that they did this but it's lame. There are two reasons I feel this way

1.) when Northwood came out, it was nice because you got higher IPC for free at the same MHz rating (I know this is a PR rating, but read on to 2)

2.) as happened before with the PR rating, it's a linear curve - a straight line, and at each "100+" or 66MHz interval, the gap shrinks between it and a corresponding MHz P4. Therefore, by my reasoning, it would have been nice if they let Barton's 3000+ be the same speed as a Tbred 3000+ since it would give them much more leeway in keeping the ~3500+ in line with a P4 ~3500.
 

dxkj

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Since the new Bartons are also .13m will that spell good news for us overclockers? the 3000 is released at a lower clock rate, meaning we can probably overclock it well, getting close to 4000 rating out of it if we are lucky?

Also the core is bigger? Giving us slightly increased cooling ability?
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Since the new Bartons are also .13m will that spell good news for us overclockers? the 3000 is released at a lower clock rate, meaning we can probably overclock it well, getting close to 4000 rating out of it if we are lucky?

Also the core is bigger? Giving us slightly increased cooling ability?

4000+ sounds a tad optimistic, wouldn't you say? The core must be bigger, by a substancial amount (considering L2 cache is a huge chunk of the transistors), but all it will do is add maybe 30-40% more die. The big question is if AMD has switched to an integrated heat spreader like Intel (which I think they haven't done yet). Ah well....