Athlon XP 1700+ overclocking-help

[NYHoustonman]

I have the XP1700+, running at 1.46 ghz. It says in the BIOS and in the Asus Utility that I can run it at 1.8 ghz. I am new to overclocking, but would running this processor at that speed damage it? I have a relatively good heatsink and fan (it's copper, with very thin fins), but I would like to know what to look for and what to research before I decide to do this, as to whether or not it may damage the CPU.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

overclocking will cause some damage ...how much exactly is not measureable i dont think

ifyou wanna play it safe, just overclock however much you can without raising the vcore

what are your temps under full load?

a coupl of programs:
prime95 (run "torture test" to test for cpu stability)
memtest86 (to test for ram errors)

 

[TGCid]

Depends really. But Champion is right, its really hard to detect. My celeron 300 is still going good at 450. Ah the good ol days huh. My Athlon 500 oc to 750 died on me a few months ago way before my celeron. I think the reason is that the celeron ran cooler so it lasted longer and it used less power. Who knows.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Right now, after a long session (3 hours) of Hitman 2, it is 105 F. Usually it hovers around 97. That good? And what would the torture test do, test it at the higher rate?

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

it performs mathematical calculations and checks them against correct determined values
pretty much, if the cpu makes a mathematical error as a result of overclocking, it will tell you

it will also get you the highest full load temp

 

[Sappster]

I too have questions about all this. I have the Athlon 1700+. It came 1.47 obviously, but I have now pushed it up to 1802! I had to increase the vocre to 1.75 in the BIOS. I have been running Prime95 and I went 26 hours until it had the FATAL ERROR rounding problems. It was expecting under 0.4, but got .4899... What I'm wondering is, should I trust Prime95? Or are there other torture tests I can run? I have the Alpha Pal 8045 HSF, with the 80mm fan. I have been running XP Pro with my CPU at 1.8 for about 2 days and it hasn't crashed or anything, which is why I'm not for sure how to take Prime95. The fsb is 163. So, any thoughts would be good. I really want to go higher if I can. Let me know what yall think.

 

[rommelrommel]

Prime95 really is great for torture testing. Sandra has a torture test too, but I like how Prime95 can catch some ver inconsequential normally errors and make you aware of them. Prime95 making one error after 26 hours kind of suggests that your case temps were slowly rising. I'd say more case cooling, more Vcore, and shoot higher. There should be more in that CPU. Also, do you have PCI/AGP lock on your mobo? You might be getting devices out of spec.

 

[movinslow]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Right now, after a long session (3 hours) of Hitman 2, it is 105 F. Usually it hovers around 97. That good?

97F = 36.1C 105F = 40.5C easy conversion
Those are good temps.
I have same proc with Volcano 7. I get 38C(100.4F) idle and 42C(107.6F) running SETI.
FSB at 137.3(1.51 GHz), I don't think it affected my temps at all. I don't know about running 1.8GHz...I have ECS K7S5A, not an overclocking board. An ASUS board should be a good o/c.

O/C away!!

 

[NYHoustonman]

I tried setting the vcore to 1.7 and the processor to 1.833ghz, but it locked on startup and I had to reset the BIOS. It said that the memory had to be 333mhz or greater for this, and I am using 2700 DDR (333). Could it be that the VCore wasn't high enough, or just that this won't work?

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

yeah raise the vcore
if it still doesnt work
raise the vdimm if possible

also, make sure you are at a 1:1 ratio for cpu fsb and ram...not a 4:5

 

[Sappster]

Alright, I have another question. In my BIOS I can not change my multiplier from "Auto" to any number I want it to be. So I have to leave it on auto. I have the fsb at 166 with a vcore of 1.75 in the BIOS. However in windows the vcore will go up to 1.8 and change whenever it needs to. I have the athlon 1700+ I don't know if it is the T-Bred B or whatever. I do know that the speed came with 1.47 and I am now at 1.83. I am running Prime95 and have a 3D visualization going on in Winamp. I'm sure Prime95 will eventually find a rounding error. I have the A7N8X deluxe mobo. What I am wondering is, if my computer doesn't crash even though Prime finds errors, how high can I increase my VCore? I don't want to kill my CPU. I want it to last for a few months or longer preferablly. I'm new to OC and just wanted to know from others' experiences with the 1700+. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Sappster]

Yeah, after only SIX minutes Prime95 found the same error it has found ever since I started OCing. It says an error rounding. It got like 0.4998876... and was expecting under 0.4 Can anyone please explain what this means in laymen's terms? Cause my computer doesn't crash with what I run on it. Again, thanks.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

if the computer hasnt crashed/frozen yet, it will soon
6min before prime95 failure is not a lot of time

i havnt heard of any sudden death syndrome regarding tbreds, so try jacking up the voltage to 1.8v bios (would be around 1.85 in windows)

do alot of gaming....multitasking...all at the same time
like have a game or two open, alt+tab out and open other programs, then start surfing the web
pretty much, multitask like never before

another program to try would be memtest86...that tests for any ram errors...
but generally if the cpu cant do prime95 for about 6hrs or longer...then its not stable...at 6min its really not stable (it may not seem like its not stable, but its performing mathematical errors pretty often)