Athlon XP 1600+ @ 166/333 mhz?

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: ktch
With my case close, the system is about 41°C and the cpu is about 60°C. Do you think it is worth to unlock my cpu?

No. You might get another 10% out of the cpu, which would end up being maybe a 3% improvement in applications. More likely you would only be able to up the multiplier by .5, considering where your temps are.

jaybee

 

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: Refresh
Guys and Gals,

I just got a AXP 1600+ AROIA stepping from newegg...I also brought some PC2700 OCZ rebranded ram for overclocking it. I'm not getting the result that I was expecting. The system is currently running stable at 155x10.5 without any problems, thus so far. And at that setting my CPU temp is at 56 and MB temp is around 36 or so. I do notice that when I do pump it up higher than normal..it takes the board (Shuttle AK35GT2) longer to boot up the system. If I do set it higher than 155 FSB it crashes in loading up windowsXP or sometimes not boot up at all. Any help is appreciated.

Here are major the component on my system:
420W Antec True Power Supply
GC86 HSF (sp?)
TNT2 Pro PCI
AGP Geforce2 GTS
generic network card

What's the vcore set at? Can you drop the vcore by .025v and still run at 155fsb? Is 56C an idle temp or load temp? Have you thought about unlocking the chip?

jaybee

 

[Valinos]

I'm currently running an AROIA 1600+ on a Soltek 75DRV5 w/ Mushkin PC2700 and a Swiftech MCX462 HS and Delta 120mm fan. I got it up to 154fsb (locked still) max, while I had Crucial PC2100 getting the CPU to 151FSB max. I don't understand this. I figured I'd get a huge boost from the PC2700, hopefuly being able to hit 160 at least. The CPU stays around 45C so I know its not heating up too much. I currently have the memory voltage boosted to 2.6v but that hasn't helped me and neither has boosting the vcore to 1.85v. I keep getting the same memory dump errors in Windows beyond 154 and sometimes at 154 or lower. It is kinda random...sometimes I can boot up into 154 and be fine for days and then when I reboot I get the error.

It is being real wishy-washy and I just wanna get 2000+ at least. I'm so close to a real 2000+...I don't wanna stay at 1900+

Anyone know what might be the problem? I would think the Mushkin shoulda gave me more headroom. I'm thinking of sending it back to them and saying it was defective to get another stick.


Ok, I just tried 156 again and I got the error IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in WinXP Pro. Any suggestions?

 

[grunjee]

Originally posted by: ktch
With my case close, the system is about 41°C and the cpu is about 60°C. Do you think it is worth to unlock my cpu?

I always recommend unlocking your cpu if you think you can do it... but man your temps are really high... I'm guessing you have really poor case ventilation, or it's over 100 degrees (F) in your room.

 

[grunjee]

Originally posted by: Refresh
Guys and Gals,

I just got a AXP 1600+ AROIA stepping from newegg...I also brought some PC2700 OCZ rebranded ram for overclocking it. I'm not getting the result that I was expecting. The system is currently running stable at 155x10.5 without any problems, thus so far. And at that setting my CPU temp is at 56 and MB temp is around 36 or so. I do notice that when I do pump it up higher than normal..it takes the board (Shuttle AK35GT2) longer to boot up the system. If I do set it higher than 155 FSB it crashes in loading up windowsXP or sometimes not boot up at all. Any help is appreciated.

Here are major the component on my system:
420W Antec True Power Supply
GC86 HSF (sp?)
TNT2 Pro PCI
AGP Geforce2 GTS
generic network card

Refresh --

A couple of questions/comments...

First off, which mobo are you using?

Second, OCZ ram is known to be crap. They (OCZ) hype it up but often, unfortunately, people are disappointed with it. In fact I've seen several threads where people have gotten PC2700 ram that can't even hit 166 (the rated spec)... other ram they've tried can, so it's definitely the OCZ. What's worse is their customer service. From what other people say it doesn't exist.

Third, that TNT2 might not like a high PCI frequency. Of course, if you have a newer mobo (KT333, etc) the frequency might be just fine. Btw why do you have that card along with the GF2?

 

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: Valinos
I'm currently running an AROIA 1600+ on a Soltek 75DRV5 w/ Mushkin PC2700 and a Swiftech MCX462 HS and Delta 120mm fan. I got it up to 154fsb (locked still) max, while I had Crucial PC2100 getting the CPU to 151FSB max. I don't understand this. I figured I'd get a huge boost from the PC2700, hopefuly being able to hit 160 at least. The CPU stays around 45C so I know its not heating up too much. I currently have the memory voltage boosted to 2.6v but that hasn't helped me and neither has boosting the vcore to 1.85v. I keep getting the same memory dump errors in Windows beyond 154 and sometimes at 154 or lower. It is kinda random...sometimes I can boot up into 154 and be fine for days and then when I reboot I get the error.

It is being real wishy-washy and I just wanna get 2000+ at least. I'm so close to a real 2000+...I don't wanna stay at 1900+

Anyone know what might be the problem? I would think the Mushkin shoulda gave me more headroom. I'm thinking of sending it back to them and saying it was defective to get another stick.


Ok, I just tried 156 again and I got the error IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in WinXP Pro. Any suggestions?

You're running the PCI pretty far out of spec. Does that board have a 1/5 divider? If so, set vcore to 1.85v, fsb to 166 and pci to 33, vdimm to default/+.1v/+2.v (try each if default doesn't work), relax memory timings, and see if it boots. btw What is indicated vcore when you set it to 1.85v?

It sounds like you have good cooling -- I would expect that chip could handle 1750MHz (166x10.5). If that doesn't work, send back the memory. And if you don't have a 1/5 divider... try sending the mem back anyway, but PCI is my first guess.

jaybee

PS You can unlock the cpu for more performance. You should have another 100-200Mhz in it.

 

[Valinos]

Its the KT333 chipset, so yeah it automatically divides the PCI bus. 140 FSB = 35 MHz, 150 = 37.5, and 166 = 33 according to the manual. So it isn't enough out of spec to matter. I've tried putting the timings to the least aggressive possible, and when I use 1.85 vcore it undervolts quite a bit to about 1.82-1.83. That's the max vcore available though. I think the memory is a little faulty possibly, because my Sandra memory benchmarks don't even compare to some of the ones I've seen with other PC2700 memory modules I've seen tested.

Also, I just had to reinstall Windows because the computer locked up on a Sandra memory benchmark locked up the entire computer and screwed up the SOFTWARE config file. :/ No big deal, but still irritates me that the computer locked up with such slow timings. I didn't have this problem with the Crucial PC2100 I had running at the same FSB.

Definately looks like I'll be sending this stuff back and hopefully Mushkin will refund my money and I'll get some Corsair XMS. If they don't refund, I'll see if I can get some of their High Perf PC2100 that I've heard so many raves about. I'm also planning on unlocking the CPU to possibly get a higher overlock without having to push the FSB too much. I should be able to reach at least 2000+ at 12.5x133, although I'm sure I can get much more out of it with a little tweaking.

By the way, anyone know where I can get some silver lacquer without having to buy one of those kits online? I checked out Radio Shack and Home Depot and they don't even know what it is. Closest thing I could find was some silver-based soldering compound in a bottle, but I didn't want to try it without knowing it would work. I'd rather just pick some of the stuff up locally without having to wait a week or two to get it online.

 

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: Valinos
Its the KT333 chipset, so yeah it automatically divides the PCI bus. 140 FSB = 35 MHz, 150 = 37.5, and 166 = 33 according to the manual. So it isn't enough out of spec to matter.

You're having problems at 154fsb, which would mean the PCI is at 38.5. That's enough. If you've got a Soundblaster in the machine, it's more than enough.

By the way, anyone know where I can get some silver lacquer without having to buy one of those kits online? I checked out Radio Shack and Home Depot and they don't even know what it is. Closest thing I could find was some silver-based soldering compound in a bottle, but I didn't want to try it without knowing it would work. I'd rather just pick some of the stuff up locally without having to wait a week or two to get it online.

Pick up a window defogger repair kit from a NAPA store. Works great. I promise 🙂

jaybee

 

[jktam]

i have a 1600+ AGOIA o/c to 1.650 w/ fsb of 157 x 10.5. mushkin 256 high performance 2100 ram, radeon 8500, abit k7ra, thermaltake 6cu, artic silver3. running hot but doesn't freeze. 60C w/ 3dmark2001 se looped for a few hours. still trying to cool it down before i hit higher clocks which is unstable. default voltage of 1.75v.

jt

 

[Valinos]

hmmm didn't think about the soundblaster. I've heard about those being real sensitive and that might be what the IRQL_LESS_THAN_EQUAL problem is. Plus, it's an old Live! before the 5.1 even came out....I've had it for like 3 years...I'll try pulling that out and seeing what it does...

And how much does one of those fogger repair kits cost? I might just go by there tomorrow and pick one up 😀

 

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: Valinos
hmmm didn't think about the soundblaster. I've heard about those being real sensitive and that might be what the IRQL_LESS_THAN_EQUAL problem is. Plus, it's an old Live! before the 5.1 even came out....I've had it for like 3 years...I'll try pulling that out and seeing what it does...

And how much does one of those fogger repair kits cost? I might just go by there tomorrow and pick one up 😀

The defogger kit was about 7 bucks and the gel-type superglue was another 4. LMK what happens with the SB and if you have any more ?s.

jaybee

 

[Dulanic]

Got my 1600+ today, runs 1850 at 1.85, tho I run it at 10.5x170 which is like 1785, cause my Crucial PC2100 craps out about there at Cas2, didnt feel like trying Cas 2.5