Athlon X2 vs Opteron?

[jordanpr]

AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1000MHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model OSA165CDBOX - Retail $327.00

VS

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA3800BVBOX - Retail
$297.00

My buddy says that Opterons aren't supported.... and the 64 X2 has 2000MHz?

Please help a newbie? )))

Thanks guys in advance...

Here's the rig I'm thinking so far:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: CAC-T05-UW
Item #: N82E16811119068

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultr
Item #: N82E16813136152

Open Box: ATI 100-435702 Radeon X1800XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM
Model #: 100-435702
Item #: N82E16814102643R

Thermaltake Silent Purepower W0014RU ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0014RU
Item #: N82E16817153007

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS - Retail
Model #: F1-3200PHU2-2GBNS
Item #: N82E16820231047

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1200JS 120GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1200JS
Item #: N82E16822144414

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Opteron 165 BY FAR.. This is no budget build =P. Anyways, those bad@$$ 165s hit 3ghz easily with the CCB1E 0610 steppings

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

The Opteron 165 overclocks better and comes with a better heatsink. Ditch that PSU though, it sucks. Get a PSU from a quality manufacturer like Seasonic, Enermax, Fortron, etc.

 

[raincityboy]

If you plan on OC'n go for the 165, if not the 3800.
The opty also has twice as much L2 cache.

My buddy says that Opterons aren't supported

AMD supports all of thier CPUs
He probably isn't aware of the 939 optys

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: raincityboy
If you plan on OC'n go for the 165, if not the 3800.
The opty also has twice as much L2 cache.

My buddy says that Opterons aren't supported

AMD supports all of thier CPUs
He probably isn't aware of the 939 optys

 

[Gamer X]

Get Seasonic S12600 PSU.

 

[Oyeve]

For a meager 30 bucks get the opty. I have the 3800 and can OC it up to 2400ghz. Havent pushed it anymore than that, but the opty will do better than that plus the larger cache makes it a much better chip for not much more.

 

[jordanpr]

you guys friggin rock.

any way to make this build around 800 bucks?

 

[jordanpr]

Cheaper PSU than that? Yeeeeooooowwwww.

 

[Howard]

Why not go for AM2?

 

[jordanpr]

AM2 is a socket right? So the motherboard/processor have to line up and both be AM2?

 

[jordanpr]

PCI Express x1: 2
PCI Express x16: 1

What does this mean? Which one would like a 7900 GT fit into? the x1 or x16

 

[raincityboy]

Originally posted by: jordanpr
PCI Express x1: 2
PCI Express x16: 1

What does this mean? Which one would like a 7900 GT fit into? the x1 or x16

x16

 

[gramboh]

A few things:

1) PSU is probably fine, as others have said there are better brands (OCZ, Seasonic, PCP&P, maybe Antec) but if you are going for budget don't bother changing it.

2) Get a bigger HDD. 120gig is pretty small, you can get 250-300 for under $100US so why not? I recommend the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gig S-ATA

3) PCI-E x16 is the speed of hte PCI-E slot, you will put the video card in the x16 slot, yes the 7900GT or X1800XT will be fine. I'd go with the 7900GT and OC it really far, although the 512mb on the X1800XT is nice, and some say ATI has better image quality.

 

[Bobthelost]

Gah, the PSU would be fine if it weren't TT, a 400W one from a good brand will be enough.

If this is for gaming then get a cheaper CPU, dual core support has been expected for going on a year+ now, and it's yet to make itself apparent, even Oblivion only gains 5% more (when the graphics aren't maxed out, not going to happen with an X1800XT /7900GT ). A fast single core is enough to get the most from your graphics card, think about a 144 or 146, or even a 3200 instead. Cheaper, will OC as well if not better and performance will be as good in most games, more than good enough in the rest.

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

This is definitely not a "budget" build. I'd consider it pretty mainstream or even highend. Get a better PSU. The PSU isn't a part you can simply skimp on. It's very important, and you need to spend money to get a good one.

 

[jordanpr]

how can i make it under 800$? Any more suggestions?

 

[Bobthelost]

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[jordanpr]

As far as Conroe goes...

Since it will be pushing the Intel Pentium D's to be so cheap... whats the differences between these?

Intel Pentium D 920 (2.80GHz/2Mx2) $178
Intel Pentium D 820 (2.80GHz/1Mx2) $133
Intel Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz/1Mx2) $93

The bottom one means its a 2.66 GHz processor with 1Mx2? What is 1Mx2?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: jordanpr
As far as Conroe goes...

Since it will be pushing the Intel Pentium D's to be so cheap... whats the differences between these?

Intel Pentium D 920 (2.80GHz/2Mx2) $178
Intel Pentium D 820 (2.80GHz/1Mx2) $133
Intel Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz/1Mx2) $93

The bottom one means its a 2.66 GHz processor with 1Mx2? What is 1Mx2?

The amount of L2 cache. 1M (that should be 1MB) per core, it's a dual core processor, so 2MB of L2 cache in total.

 

[jordanpr]

The cache is what? Kind of like the temp memory of the processor? Sort of like how the RAM is to the computer?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: jordanpr
The cache is what? Kind of like the temp memory of the processor? Sort of like how the RAM is to the computer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_cache

 

[raincityboy]

Intel Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz/1Mx2) $93

:Q Only $93
Where can I find this?