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Athlon 64 X2 System

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RoosterKooster

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I am going to build a new system and have decided to go Athlon 64 x2 4400.
It will be a combination development machine and mini-server running Win2k server.

I intend to make this leap pronto - hoping the cpu will be available soon.

Would you kind folks assist me in choosing a compatible case, air cooler, MB, memory and anything else It might need? I'd appreciate it. I would like to OC this a little.

As far as cost is concerned, I do have a budget so the very best components are not really desirable.

I am attaching a quote from Monarch that I was working on. Any comments are very appreciated.
[*] 80307 Monarch Furia Custom Workstation 1 $75.00 $75.00
[*] Case: 100159 - NO PS - Antec Performance One P160 ATX Mi $125.00 $125.00
[*] Power Supply: 100176 - PS 450W - OCZ OCZ45012U ModStream ATX 2.0 $75.00 $75.00
[*] Case Fan: 100887 - 120mm - Antec 120mm SmartCool Case Fan $18.00 $18.00
[*] Motherboard: 110795 - Asus A8V Deluxe (v. 2.0) K8T800 No-WiFi/A $129.00 $129.00
[*] Processor: 120234 - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual-Core 1MB Per $575.00 $575.00
[*] Thermal Grease: Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease $14.00
[*] Heat Sink Fan: 130099 - Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu Silent CPU Cooling $37.00 $37.00
[*] Memory: 140310 - DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB DDR (2 pcs 512) OCZ $129.00 $129.00
2nd Memory: None
[*] Hard Drive: 150037 - SATA - Western Digital (WD1600SD) 160 GB/ $97.00 $97.00
[*] 2nd Hard Drive: 150037 - SATA - Western Digital (WD1600SD) 160 GB/ $97.00 $97.00
3rd Hard Drive: None
4th Hard Drive: None
RAID Setup: None
RAID Controller: None
[*] CD-ROM/DVD-ROM/CD-RW: 160015 - DVD-RW - Plextor PX-716A/SW 4x-DVD+R 8x4x $145.00 $145.00
CD-RW/DVD-RW: None
[*] Floppy: 170101 - Mitsumi 1.44 MB 3.5" Floppy Drive $15.25 $15.25
More Storage: None
Sound Card: None
Video Card: None
Modem: None
Network Card: None
Add On Card: None
Case Function Add On: None
Round Cable: None
Operating System: 800008 - None - Barebone /No Software Support /1 Y
Additional Software: None
Antivirus: None
[*] Warranty: 800010 - 3 Year - Parts & Labor - Plus $89.00 $89.00
Hot Rush: None - Standard Order ( ships within 8-13 business
[*] Far Cry Promotion: 270332 - FREE Full DVD Version of Far Cry 64/32 -
Wireless Network Card: None
Napster Promotion: None
[*] Half Life 2 Promotion: 27F854 - FREE Half Life 2 Full Version Coupon with
CD-RW Software: None
DVD-ROM Software: None
Video Capture: None
TV Tuner: None
[*] Subtotal for 80307 with your selected options: $1,620.25

Thank you very much,
 
dont get the a8v deluxe. the x2 supporting bios is hardly functional, and you will have a lot of serious problems, especially in overclocking.
 
If you're having an OEM assemble it, you shouldn't have to worry about parts compatibility. They don't offer non-functional OEM systems.
 
I would omit the DVD drive and save some money. Also, unless you're OCing, budget RAM could save you $40 or so. And if you're at all concerned about noise, those HDs might not be the best bet.
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Thanks. I do intend to OC to about 2.4 or 2.6 if it is stable. I do need a DVD copier so I might keep that one.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
If you're having an OEM assemble it, you shouldn't have to worry about parts compatibility. They don't offer non-functional OEM systems.
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I am going to let Monarch assemble and test it. I would like to receive it almost ready to fire up and install the OS and boogie.
 
Originally posted by: themandont get the a8v deluxe. the x2 supporting bios is hardly functional, and you will have a lot of serious problems, especially in overclocking.
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Originally posted by: Bona Fide
ASUS in general is not a safe road to travel. Go with MSI, DFI, or Abit. 🙂
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Thanks. Would I want to consider an SLI board - no gaming or intense graphics will be done?

I reckon DFI has made great strides. Any specific bpard recommendation?

 
If you want to go SLI...I would say get the DFI NF4 SLI-DR. Best SLI board on the market. If not [ATI graphics card], then go for the DFI NF4 Ultra-D. Either one is a great choice.

Cough...you can tweak the Ultra-D into an SLI, with a small mod using a #2 pencil...cough. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Bona Fide
If you want to go SLI...I would say get the DFI NF4 SLI-DR. Best SLI board on the market. If not [ATI graphics card], then go for the DFI NF4 Ultra-D. Either one is a great choice.

Cough...you can tweak the Ultra-D into an SLI, with a small mod using a #2 pencil...cough. 😉
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Thank you, Mr Fide. I think I will go with the NF4 SLI-DR unless someone has a convincing reason not to. I appreciate the information on the pencilical maneuver for the U-D but I am not that adventuresome anymore - especially with OPM (my company).

 
Cough... You can tweak the Nforce 4-D DFI to a Ultra and then tweak it again to an SLI .... Cough

P.S. You cant magically make the extra ethernet port appear though.
 
FWIW - unless you're experienced w/ overclocking, DFI motherboards can be quite intimidating due to the large number of tweaks available and may take a bit of time to get them stable.

In regards to Asus, outside of the A8N-SLI Deluxe, the A8N-e, A8N-SLI and A8N-SLI Premium are all excellent motherboards.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
FWIW - unless you're experienced w/ overclocking, DFI motherboards can be quite intimidating due to the large number of tweaks available and may take a bit of time to get them stable.
In regards to Asus, outside of the A8N-SLI Deluxe, the A8N-e, A8N-SLI and A8N-SLI Premium are all excellent motherboards.
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If I OC, I think I will go for a .2 to .4 max increase. Did you OC your A8N-SLI?

I am a novice OCer. Should I seriously think about just running at stock speed on the DFI or ASUS until some definitive OC information is available for them? Currently, i can draw OC info from posts but I haven't done this enough to even think about being proficient at it.

Thanks,
 
Originally posted by: Bona Fide
ASUS in general is not a safe road to travel. Go with MSI, DFI, or Abit. 🙂
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Actually the Asus boards have been one of the most rock solid...IF you aren't overclocking.
For stock speed, go either the Asus A8N-E or A8N-SLI...
For overclocking, go with the DFI Lanparty...
Either way, stick with the Nforce4 chipset.
 
Originally posted by: RoosterKooster
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
FWIW - unless you're experienced w/ overclocking, DFI motherboards can be quite intimidating due to the large number of tweaks available and may take a bit of time to get them stable.
In regards to Asus, outside of the A8N-SLI Deluxe, the A8N-e, A8N-SLI and A8N-SLI Premium are all excellent motherboards.
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If I OC, I think I will go for a .2 to .4 max increase. Did you OC your A8N-SLI?

I am a novice OCer. Should I seriously think about just running at stock speed on the DFI or ASUS until some definitive OC information is available for them? Currently, i can draw OC info from posts but I haven't done this enough to even think about being proficient at it.

Thanks,
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My X2 4400+ is oc'd to 2.7ghz on my Asus A8N-SLI Premium. If you plan on mildly oc'ing, I would recommend the Premium. I just posted in another thread the benefits but IMHO:
1. Better board layout - 3 pci slots, pci-e x16 spaced further out for more ventilation
2. No noisy chipset fan - heatpipe used to cool nf4 chipset. DFI uses a fan that is placed where it most likely will be covered by your video card and may cause ventilation/cooling issues.
3. Less tweaking options allowing for a more stable overclock, especially a mild oc

A lot folks like to recite what they read but getting responses from actual users will be more helpful.
 
speaking from personal experience as i have owned the a8n-sli deluxe and 2 dfi sli-dr. i would go for the asus premium if overclocking is not an issue. it will be much easier to setup. however, if you want to overclock the dfi rocks. either way i don't think you can go wrong. by the way i just sold my fx-55 to get a 4400x2.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
My X2 4400+ is oc'd to 2.7ghz on my Asus A8N-SLI Premium. If you plan on mildly oc'ing, I would recommend the Premium. I just posted in another thread the benefits but IMHO:
1. Better board layout - 3 pci slots, pci-e x16 spaced further out for more ventilation
2. No noisy chipset fan - heatpipe used to cool nf4 chipset. DFI uses a fan that is placed where it most likely will be covered by your video card and may cause ventilation/cooling issues.
3. Less tweaking options allowing for a more stable overclock, especially a mild oc

A lot folks like to recite what they read but getting responses from actual users will be more helpful.
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Thank you for the details on the A8N-SLI Premium. I am quite sold on it. I think I will strive for about 2.6 OC. Was there any issues with mounting the XP-120? Is there a HSF that would give good OC cooling? What is the best thermal grease to use today? I used Arctic Silver three years ago (my last HSF install on my Tiger MP 1.2 workstation - The 5v rail has me concerned right now. It varies between 4.26v and 4.62v (no mod)).

Thanks,
 
Originally posted by: cronic
speaking from personal experience as i have owned the a8n-sli deluxe and 2 dfi sli-dr. i would go for the asus premium if overclocking is not an issue. it will be much easier to setup. however, if you want to overclock the dfi rocks. either way i don't think you can go wrong. by the way i just sold my fx-55 to get a 4400x2.
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Congrats on going for the 4400x2. I am beginning to feel like a kid anticipating that much requested and mentioned birthday present.

I am sold on the Asus A8N-SLI Premium.

Thanks,
 
Will I be able to mildly OC the A8N-SLI Premium with either 1 GB DDR (2 pcs 512) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Copper (OCZ4001024PFDC-K) or 1 GB DDR (2 pcs 512) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Platinum Revision 2 (OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K)

Thanks,
 
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