Athlon 64 3800+ Socket 939 Review

[burek]

Link

 

[Schadenfroh]

hmm, babelfish cant translate it

 

[burek]

if you have the google toolbar you can right-click and select "Translate into English"... it worked for me

 

[Markfw]

The 3500 seems that it gets beat by the 3400 too many times... Other than that, looks great.

 

[Regs]

Damn those guys for locking the multiplyer. The new k8 could maybe push 2.7 2.8 .

 

[manko]

Suprise! According to the consent even of AMD, the CPU Socket 939 are likely to consume more than it... Prescott! With 104W of TDP against 103W, CPUs Socket 939 undergo an increase of 20% of their consumption compared to Socket 754.

A good graphics board will be much more significant for the player than a Ultra-powerful CPU. The "traditional" owner of Athlon XP 2500+ and Radeon 9600 Pro for example, will undoubtedly have, possible, of much better ludic performances by replacing his 9600 Pro by a NV40 or X800 that his processor by Athlon 64 3800+.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

All the wait for 939 talk and just as I suspected there are very few areas where the performance is more than 5% thanks to the dual memory controller. Futhermore it has a higher TDP than Prescott!!! :shocked: I hope this isn't an accurate indication of what to expect from 939 because it ain't all that.

 

[Tab]

Doesn't seem to have that much more of a performence advantage of the 754. I wish they included a Far Cry benchmark and a XP 3200+ Benchie

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Hey Tabb, there are plenty of 3400+ reviews that include sktA 3200+ scores for comparison

 

[Dman877]

I wish they woulda used 3DMark01 instead of 03 to test the cpu more. Other then that, pretty much expected results. That thermal output is pretty high though. I didn't translate the article but it looks like they had it up to 57 C? Does the FX-53 run that hot too?

It also seems the extra cache on the 3400+ more then makes up for the dual channel memory of the 3500+, bringing that rating into question.

 

[Gusty987]

Darn, they didn't say how much the 3500+ and 3800+ will cost when they first come out.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
All the wait for 939 talk and just as I suspected there are very few areas where the performance is more than 5% thanks to the dual memory controller. Futhermore it has a higher TDP than Prescott!!! :shocked: I hope this isn't an accurate indication of what to expect from 939 because it ain't all that.

I have been telling everybody that posted for the last two months, that I thought socket 939 would be spendy, and not that much fast, based on what I saw from the FX series. This may be a preliminary review by a site not well know, but I believe that it is probably accurate, or close. And as I said above, I think they are starting to overstate the ratings again.... (argg.....)

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Gusty987
Darn, they didn't say how much the 3500+ and 3800+ will cost when they first come out.

For the 3500+ scores they just dropped the multi on the 3800+ to 11x200, and I think that PR is rather generous seeing how it stacks up to the 3400+.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
All the wait for 939 talk and just as I suspected there are very few areas where the performance is more than 5% thanks to the dual memory controller. Futhermore it has a higher TDP than Prescott!!! :shocked: I hope this isn't an accurate indication of what to expect from 939 because it ain't all that.

I have been telling everybody that posted for the last two months, that I thought socket 939 would be spendy, and not that much fast, based on what I saw from the FX series. This may be a preliminary review by a site not well know, but I believe that it is probably accurate, or close. And as I said above, I think they are starting to overstate the ratings again.... (argg.....)

Agreed, the PR is getting generous again and that TDP is worrysome when compared to skt754 IMO.

 

[Gusty987]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Gusty987
Darn, they didn't say how much the 3500+ and 3800+ will cost when they first come out.

For the 3500+ scores they just dropped the multi on the 3800+ to 11x200, and I think that PR is rather generous seeing how it stacks up to the 3400+.

So at this time can anyone say how much the 3500+ and the 3800+ will cost on June 1st? I'm about to forget about 939 and go 754.

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
All the wait for 939 talk and just as I suspected there are very few areas where the performance is more than 5% thanks to the dual memory controller. Futhermore it has a higher TDP than Prescott!!! :shocked: I hope this isn't an accurate indication of what to expect from 939 because it ain't all that.

Does the Athlon 64's actually reach the 81W TDP ? Looking at the anandtech temperature comparison , at 3200+ it didnt seem anywhere near.

AMD may just be doing this to allow for some headroom should they want to ramp the core up, as the 0.13 3200+ reviewed didnt appear to approach 81W

Edit : For reference, CPU Heat comparison

 

[Megatomic]

I'm still going to sit out on the upgrade cycle for a while to see how things pan out with Socket 939 and NF3-250Gb. I'm fine for now and I'd like to see what process refinement brings to future chips before I form any lasting opinions.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
All the wait for 939 talk and just as I suspected there are very few areas where the performance is more than 5% thanks to the dual memory controller. Futhermore it has a higher TDP than Prescott!!! :shocked: I hope this isn't an accurate indication of what to expect from 939 because it ain't all that.

Does the Athlon 64's actually reach the 81W TDP ? Looking at the anandtech temperature comparison , at 3200+ it didnt seem anywhere near.

AMD may just be doing this to allow for some headroom should they want to ramp the core up, as the 0.13 3200+ reviewed didnt appear to approach 81W

Edit : For reference, CPU Heat comparison

You may be right, and I did notice the new CG have a max temp of 95c where as the C0 like mine is only 70c so there's a lot more room too, something I didn't think about before reading your response.

 

[MichaelD]

I'm sitting this one out for awhile. Probably til mid-2005.

This week, I'm putting an old (Week 13, 2003 ) XP2500Barton into my new NF7-S. Hoping to get at least 2.2GHz out of it.

B/T the extra 200MHz and the extra 256Mb of cache, it should be a nice little upgrade from my XP2100 running at 200x10.

Hey, maybe I'll even see 2.30GHz?

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sitting this one out for awhile. Probably til mid-2005.

This week, I'm putting an old (Week 13, 2003 ) XP2500Barton into my new NF7-S. Hoping to get at least 2.2GHz out of it.

B/T the extra 200MHz and the extra 256Mb of cache, it should be a nice little upgrade from my XP2100 running at 200x10.

Hey, maybe I'll even see 2.30GHz?

Quite an amount of cache

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sitting this one out for awhile. Probably til mid-2005.

This week, I'm putting an old (Week 13, 2003 ) XP2500Barton into my new NF7-S. Hoping to get at least 2.2GHz out of it.

B/T the extra 200MHz and the extra 256Mb of cache, it should be a nice little upgrade from my XP2100 running at 200x10.

Hey, maybe I'll even see 2.30GHz?

Quite an amount of cache

Whoops!!!! Bahaha! That would be one big mutha chip,no? :Q Heh, I'll leave it.

 

[JBT]

unsuprisingly that is what I expected to see from the 939 pin chips. I mean the FX's really didn't have much more performance because their extra bandwith why should these? Only real reason why I am waiting for the 939 is because it is more upgradeable but in reality almost every time I get a new CPU I get a new motheboard too so its not a big deal. I won't be upgrading for awhile anyways probably not until after summer and I actually have money.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sitting this one out for awhile. Probably til mid-2005.

This week, I'm putting an old (Week 13, 2003 ) XP2500Barton into my new NF7-S. Hoping to get at least 2.2GHz out of it.

B/T the extra 200MHz and the extra 256Mb of cache, it should be a nice little upgrade from my XP2100 running at 200x10.

Hey, maybe I'll even see 2.30GHz?

Quite an amount of cache

Whoops!!!! Bahaha! That would be one big mutha chip,no? :Q Heh, I'll leave it.

Get your hands on a POWER5 and you'll get a tad closer at least

 

[nick1985]

:thumbsup:

 

[Mithan]

The real question is:

How will the 3700 perform?