Athlon 2.5 Ghz and high end video games

hofinder23

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how many months, years, will you think it will take for the athlong 2.5 ghz to be too slow to play high end video games?
 

Hacp

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Happened already. Intel's 2.5GHZ celeron stinks.

If your talking about AMDs, then it will probably take a longg while, since game developers usually develop for the lowest common developer. I'm pretty sure someone will get mad when their 3.0GHZ P4 can't play a game on lowest settings.
 

xTYBALTx

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Well lets see. Right now, the lowest AMD chip that will run high-end games acceptably would probably be around 1.6ghz? 1.4ghz? And when did those speed chips come out? Anyone have a CPU mag handy? It lists the release dates of many chips.

In any event, I'd say one year for sure and two years almost certainly.

Pure speculation.
 

ElTorrente

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I think 2.5ghz will play acceptably in 2yrs from now. I bet with a video card upgrade or two, it'll be able to play just fine - probably 1280x1024.

I say this because 2 1/2 years ago I built a nice pentium system (still have it). It's a 3.06ghz with a gig of ram, and I upgraded the vid card eventually to a geforce 6800. So - that system right there is just fine in todays world - don't ya think? It can run BF2 at 1280x1024 with all settings on "high" except shadows and lighting, which is at "medium", and no AA. BF2 plays very well on this 2 1/2 year old system. Just one video card upgrade, and I was good to go. If I threw my 7800 in there from my latest rig, it would play 1600x1200 probably.
 

exar333

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on performance per watt.

shut the hell up troll....

anyway...i would also guess 1-2 years...just think how long the P4 3.4EE and FX-51 have been around...they are both still very good...as well as P4 3.0 Northwood and and 3200 A54...not much changed in a while...
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on performance per watt.

I'd have to disagree,in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on
trolls per forum.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on performance per watt.

and in the future, you'll lose your left nut in a car accident while your boyfriend is giving you head. during the collision, he accidentally takes a bite off your left marble. this can all be prevented if you stop making stupid posts. just my 2 cents.

-miss cleo
 

superfly27

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What are you talking about? You mean an overclocked XP or 64?
I don't get it. There's no 2.5 GHz.
 

Furen

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on performance per watt.

OMG, I'm thinking of making that my signature...
 

biostud

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All depends on the adaption of programming for dual core and PhysX. If games get optimized for the physX it will probably free up some CPU cycles.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Happened already. Intel's 2.5GHZ celeron stinks.

If your talking about AMDs, then it will probably take a longg while, since game developers usually develop for the lowest common developer. I'm pretty sure someone will get mad when their 3.0GHZ P4 can't play a game on lowest settings.

You couldn`t be further from the truth!!

You cannot compare the celeron with the p4.....not even in the same ballpark!!

 

fishbits

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Remember, clocks aren't increasing as fast as we're used to, so it could be a good long while (in hardware terms). It might depend on how long it takes for games to be written that truly require dual core cpus in order to play well. Also depends on where you draw the line for "too slow." If it's meeting minimum specs, it'll be even longer. If it's setting a floor at 60fps with everything maxed, it'll be shorter.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: SubtleIntelFreak
in the future games will depend less on frequency and more on performance per watt.

Bwhhahahahah!

Your... your joking, right? Dont tell me Intel has already brainwashed you with their latest propaganda.
 

StrangerGuy

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My 3.5 year-old XP1700+ @ 1.8GHz still chugs along pretty fine even in newer games such as HL2 and BF2. So I guess a 2.5GHz A64 should be fast enough to last at least 2 years for games, provided it is paired with a decent video card.
 

Pabster

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Yeah this "high end crap" always comes up...

My old trusty Northwood with a measly Radeon 9700 Pro still cranks out plenty of FPS for all the current titles.

It will be a long time before your 2.5GHz Athlon is unable to run the latest games. More likely your GPU will not handle it...
 

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Let's be realistic. How well do you think BF2 will run on a AMD XP 2500+ with 512MB RAM and an ATI 9600 or similar videocard?

Answer=not very well!

Yes it will run it, but probably at minimal settings. And if that is now, just imagine what some of the top end games will need in 2 years. Then again, it all depends on the type of game. Hardcore 1st person shooter games tend to take a lot of resourses where RTS and other types of games, even the new ones, don't need as much power.
 

WobbleWobble

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: superfly27
What are you talking about? You mean an overclocked XP or 64?
I don't get it. There's no 2.5 GHz.

obviously oc'ed a64.

Why do you say that it obviously is an A64? Some of the AXP mobile chips overclocked that high.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Staz
Let's be realistic. How well do you think BF2 will run on a AMD XP 2500+ with 512MB RAM and an ATI 9600 or similar videocard?

Answer=not very well!

Yes it will run it, but probably at minimal settings. And if that is now, just imagine what some of the top end games will need in 2 years. Then again, it all depends on the type of game. Hardcore 1st person shooter games tend to take a lot of resourses where RTS and other types of games, even the new ones, don't need as much power.

Yes, but switch that 9600 out for an X800 series and it will do just fine. My point is that GPU power wears out long before CPU.
 

fishbits

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Let's be realistic. How well do you think BF2 will run on a AMD XP 2500+ with 512MB RAM and an ATI 9600 or similar videocard?

An A64 at 2.5 GHz is pretty much top-of-the-line today, barring some of the mega-pricey FXs. It blows the doors off an XP 2500. Now what do you see available in 2 years that would be as much of an improvement in the single-core arena? A 4 GHz A64? I'd love for them to come up with a way, but don't see it happening. Processor clocks are up against the wall today, so you can't look backwards and say that clock speed is going to increase as quickly as it did in the past.

No game company is going to slit its own throat by releasing a game that requires an FX-57 (in today's standards) to run just adequately. It simply wouldn't sell enough to be worth the development costs. My bet is that the only way we'll see something in two years that would be unplayable on a 2.5 (barring lousy titles forced to be released) is if dual cores are required for the game to be enjoyable. Depending on how adoption goes, I'm guessing that's 3+ years out.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: fishbits
Let's be realistic. How well do you think BF2 will run on a AMD XP 2500+ with 512MB RAM and an ATI 9600 or similar videocard?

An A64 at 2.5 GHz is pretty much top-of-the-line today, barring some of the mega-pricey FXs. It blows the doors off an XP 2500. Now what do you see available in 2 years that would be as much of an improvement in the single-core arena? A 4 GHz A64? I'd love for them to come up with a way, but don't see it happening. Processor clocks are up against the wall today, so you can't look backwards and say that clock speed is going to increase as quickly as it did in the past.

No game company is going to slit its own throat by releasing a game that requires an FX-57 (in today's standards) to run just adequately. It simply wouldn't sell enough to be worth the development costs. My bet is that the only way we'll see something in two years that would be unplayable on a 2.5 (barring lousy titles forced to be released) is if dual cores are required for the game to be enjoyable. Depending on how adoption goes, I'm guessing that's 3+ years out.

F.E.A.R.
 

CaBoOse999

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What Intel didn't tell you at IDF was that they are releasing mind controlled zombies to haunt forums like this one to spread the word about how people should care about performance per watt...