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oldfoof

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So whats the deal with the ATA 133 UMDA , becuase I have a maxtor ata 133 drive running currenly on the ata 100.

Is the 133 a gimmic (Thats what i have heard) Is it worth getting the ata 133 controler card?

thanks

oldfoof
 

bacillus

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<< So whats the deal with the ATA 133 UMDA , becuase I have a maxtor ata 133 drive running currenly on the ata 100.

Is the 133 a gimmic (Thats what i have heard) Is it worth getting the ata 133 controler card?

thanks

oldfoof
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stick with your present setup as you'll not see any performance increase in getting an ata133 card!
 

Imdmn04

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ata 133 is no use. yet. since no hd can even do a sustainted rate at ata66 much less the 133. however hd can burst above ata66 but i doubt very much over ata100
this is kinda like agp 4x back in the tnt2 days, most motherboard didnt support 4x, and even now we dont utilize it to its full extent
 

BCYL

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The main advantage of ATA133 now is it's support for higher capacity harddrives... from what I recall at the top of my head, ATA133 is able to support HDs bigger than 137gb, which is the limit for ATA100 and ata66...

Other than that, there's currently no performance advantage as current HDs still cannot reach the transfer capacity of ata100...
 

Imdmn04

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<< The main advantage of ATA133 now is it's support for higher capacity harddrives... from what I recall at the top of my head, ATA133 is able to support HDs bigger than 137gb, which is the limit for ATA100 and ata66... >>



are u absolutely sure about that? there are already 160gb hds out there, and i doubt those hds are only compatible with ata133 since most of the people doesnt have ata133.
so if i plug one of those 160gb into my ata100 controller, would it not work at all or would it only see 137gb of it?
 

BCYL

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<< are u absolutely sure about that? there are already 160gb hds out there, and i doubt those hds are only compatible with ata133 since most of the people doesnt have ata133.
so if i plug one of those 160gb into my ata100 controller, would it not work at all or would it only see 137gb of it?
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I am pretty sure about it... ata100 and ata66 does not have the 48bit addressing needed for supporting drives larger than 137gb...

If u plug in a drive larger than 137gb into your ata100 controller, it will simply see it as 137gb...

Here is a review on a ata133 controller which talks about this issue...
 

madthumbs

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They are "natively compatable" aren't they? And I think we've seen before that burst transfer rates make a significant difference. When it comes down to it there are a lot of things that make a difference like larger cache, arial density, rpms, etc. Best thing to do would be to check out some actual benchmarks instead of going by stats.
 

rbV5

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<< are u absolutely sure about that? there are already 160gb hds out there, >>



Yes, its true. Are there 160GB hardrives other than maxtor?
 

Becks2k

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only maxtor, on newegg it says under hte 160gig drive "requires promise ata133 controller to use the full capacity of this drive" or soemthing
 

TheYetiMan

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"160gig drive "requires promise ata133 controller to use the full capacity of this drive"

Indeed.

Now, last week i bought a 80gig Maxtor UATA133 drive, and it included the Maxtor/Promise pci card with it. Installed the card. Installed and formatted the drive (as an aditional drive D:, not the one windows boots off of. No Problem.

BUT, if i try to move my original 40gig UATA100 drive onto the card, windows won't load. The drives both appear on the card in POST, but thats as far as anything goes.

Any idea's on how to make the ATA100 drive work on the card ? (i only ask as my chipset supports ATA66, not 100. I understand that 66 is more than sufficient for 99% of life, but...).