Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: nanobreath
The whole concept of paying people for skill ups baffles me, especially since you get very little for maxing out most proffesions. Farm the mats, or farm gold and buy the mats. Sitting in IF spamming chat to make items is a waste of time.
Undercutting by such a large margin doesn't make sense. All you have to undercut somebody buy is 1g or less and people will always buy the cheaper one. Even if its 1copper they will buy it first. Usually if I'm selling things that I know the price will hold I'll buy up the greatly reduced items that undercut me. Just have to be a little carefull.
Yeah, I don't think most professions even have anything to learn after 435-440. I know BS learns all the epic Titansteel at 440. JC can make the epic necklaces at 435. Alchemy learns all of the flasks at 435.
People pay for skill ups because they don't want to waste their own mats to level a profession and it's not like enchanting really makes anything that can be used. Like my Tailor (who is also my Enchanter) can make gear and just disenchant it... so even if he's using his own mats, there's an intrinsic gain. But if my enchanter sits there Enchanting the same piece of gear for skill ups, there's no gain at all. Also, sometimes you just can't afford the level of mats and paying people might provide more incentive for them to come to you instead of someone else. It's practically the idea of undercutting crafters that charge nothing.
I personally do not pay people for points and do not actively seek out people to help me level up. I've always leveled my professions by myself and will most likely continue to do so. I also don't charge for making anything, but receiving a tip is nice. I remember in BC how bad people were at tipping for JC cuts. I don't think they realize that the nice 18 healing gem they had me cut cost me 800g just to get the design. That nice 9 spell damage gem? Yeah, that was a 800g design too (and now they're worthless

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There have been a rash of people on my server as well doing this for enchanting. JC gems have dropped tremendously in price; I see perfect gems selling for 15g and people paying 10g for a skillup.
Common trade chat looks like this:
"[enchanter] LFW, your mats, will pay you 10g per skill up!!!"
I don't understand why people are so desperate to skill up that they'll pay someone else money; it ruins the market for other enchanters.
Also a big LOL to the JC'ers complaining above; count yourself lucky, as JC seems to be the developer's favorite profession in WoTLK. Look at Alchemy in comparison, 'nuff said. (I'm 450 alchemy / herbalism, and am feeling like my high end recipes are rather useless. Pots besides mana / health are useless since you can only use one per combat, and elixirs are useless for raiders as most people just buy a flask). The main benefit to Alchemy is once in a while I get free extra mats when transmuting from transmutation mastery, and 4 hour flasks are nice too.