AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Dominato3r]

Got into a great guild and just got Sindragosa down yesterday. Do you guys have the melee move out to dps the ice tombs? or do you keep them on her?

 

[Anubis]

we had everyone, helps with stack resetting as well

 

[rh71]

Its also your job to watch threat. Count to five before dpsing or something.

in a boss fight, no problem, but these are aoe fights in heroics and if you don't attack nearly right away you may as well not dps at all because you will be nearly nil on the meter (just saying).

 

[guyver01]

these are aoe fights in heroics and if you don't attack nearly right away you may as well not dps at all because you will be nearly nil on the meter (just saying).

and therein lies the problem.... dps is just watching damage meters and only cares about their numbers. Recount is the root of all evil.

as a tank.. if you start dpsing the second i pull the mob.. if it runs to you.. i WILL NOT taunt it off you. i'll just wait till you either kill it.. or it kills you. either way.. i win.

 

[Molondo]

and therein lies the problem.... dps is just watching damage meters and only cares about their numbers. Recount is the root of all evil.

as a tank.. if you start dpsing the second i pull the mob.. if it runs to you.. i WILL NOT taunt it off you. i'll just wait till you either kill it.. or it kills you. either way.. i win.

Yea, i ran into some retard boomkin who would open up with Starfall before i would even reach the mobs, he blamed me on being bad.

 

[Aikouka]

and therein lies the problem.... dps is just watching damage meters and only cares about their numbers. Recount is the root of all evil.

as a tank.. if you start dpsing the second i pull the mob.. if it runs to you.. i WILL NOT taunt it off you. i'll just wait till you either kill it.. or it kills you. either way.. i win.

Why even care about it? I only make a stink over it if the guy constantly gets pissy about "pulling aggro" or whatever. It's not hard to just taunt the mob back and it's good practice for those silly raid DPS people that attack that one mob in the back you've only hit a few times .

 

[kehlsi]

after watching some of the cynical brit's videos of the heroics available in beta, i cannot wait for cataclysm. if things stay as they are, they are really getting back to the roots of introducing content that actually isn't trivial (although gear will trivialize it eventually as always). i was going to pick up ffxiv after playing beta and enjoying it despite all the performance flaws, etc. after seeing some of the content cataclysm beta has to offer, i'm actually getting excited over wow again

 

[Aikouka]

After I heard all about the crappy mouse control, etc in FFXIV, I gave up any hope of that game being good... although, I guess that's what happens when you try and make it work for a console too.

I've been watching a few of the videos and they're pretty interesting stuff... although, I know I'll be wishing that the heroics were easier on my umpteen time running them .

 

[kehlsi]

pre-nerf shattered halls. anyone else remember that? although i remember cursing that place, i loved that it was actually a challenge. having to use bloodlust on trash packs is always fun frost shock kiting is always fun, regardless of spec.

 

[rh71]

and therein lies the problem.... dps is just watching damage meters and only cares about their numbers. Recount is the root of all evil.

as a tank.. if you start dpsing the second i pull the mob.. if it runs to you.. i WILL NOT taunt it off you. i'll just wait till you either kill it.. or it kills you. either way.. i win.

I have been tanking the last 6 months+ so I know all about threat. My main is actually a top DPS rogue, so again, I know all about threat. This is why I put "just saying" in parenthesis... I don't actually care about recount in a heroic, the mention was because the thought is - I may as well not participate in fights at all if I delay that much. Heroics are boring for geared players so why should I even make the effort at that point to watch out for myself? I may as well not even do any more than auto attack. That particular tank that day was just plain bad, or inexperienced. In that heroic, yes, I needed to wait stupid seconds - we all did.

BTW, as a tank, I always macro'd a skull to the target I'm going to Icy Touch... even if you touch him right away you're not going to pull him off me. Are you a druid tank or something?

 

[rh71]

Enhancement shaman question time... just got to 80 two days ago and have dps rotation and general questions... I've been told to always keep magma totem down. And is Flametongue the best OH imbue even for trash (just trying to max my dps and learn right now)?

Elitistjerks doesn't specify a rotation and I suppose it's because there isn't necessarily one, but I had to ask someone if I should even flame shock + lava burst... I assume lava lash is a yes.

I did find this thread: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/5225883783/enhancement-shaman-for-dummies but it is obviously outdated. But I'm not sure which is still accurate... I am sure double WF imbue is outdated. Anything else?

 

[Anubis]

so i reactivated today because i was bored and theres some things i wanna finish out before Cata.

did the troll event thing, was pretty fun, i wish i could be a troll lock

also people have gotten worse at PVP, a lock in 0 PVP gear and no PVP trinket should not be running 3 flags back in WSG

 

[Aikouka]

Enhancement shaman question time... just got to 80 two days ago and have dps rotation and general questions... I've been told to always keep magma totem down. And is Flametongue the best OH imbue even for trash (just trying to max my dps and learn right now)?

Elitistjerks doesn't specify a rotation and I suppose it's because there isn't necessarily one, but I had to ask someone if I should even flame shock + lava burst... I assume lava lash is a yes.

I did find this thread: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/5225883783/enhancement-shaman-for-dummies but it is obviously outdated. But I'm not sure which is still accurate... I am sure double WF imbue is outdated. Anything else?

Yes, you should use Magma Totem as your main DPS totem unless you're using Fire Elemental Totem. Just be wary that you can't replant your FE totem, so in a movement heavy fight, it might not be that advantageous (since it makes Fire Nova worthless).

Shaman priorities (watch out using the word "rotation" it sends some elitists into a frothing rage like they're Icehowl or something) tend to vary a lot based on what tier gear you have or totem. But, it's something like...

MWx5 + LB
SW
LS
SS+0
FS
MT
ES
FN
SS
LL

That looks about right. That is more what I do than anything, because of the Tier 10 4-piece bonus, you want to get your MWx5 gone ASAP. I didn't include the Tier 10 2-piece bonus which would push SR right above LS. You might also wanna do SS+0 above LS... I can't remember .

 

[rcpratt]

pre-nerf shattered halls. anyone else remember that? although i remember cursing that place, i loved that it was actually a challenge. having to use bloodlust on trash packs is always fun frost shock kiting is always fun, regardless of spec.

Pre-nerf H-SH tanking as a warrior was the toughest, most fun, and most rewarding thing I have ever done in this game. Too bad nothing like that exists anymore.

 

[rcpratt]

I reinstalled yesterday, sadly. Decided I'm going to level a Worgen Warrior in cata. Been gathering all my gold and BoA items together for that, now I'm just going to be farming ore on my alt for the next month so that I can level BS quickly, I suppose.

I saw that mmo-champ said release is targeted for 11/2/2010...hopefully that's accurate. Yesterday was the first time I looked at ANY of the cata stuff, definitely some crazy changes with the talent trees and all that. I think I'm going to level prot since shield slam comes at level 10 and everything. It'll probably be slightly slower, but I love prot. If it ends up being too slow early on, I already have plenty of BoA weapons so I can just switch it up to fury.

 

[lupi]

Cataclysm Release Date Postponed (Not Official)
A few weeks ago I announced that the target release date for Cataclysm was November 2. Well, according to an update I just got, the release has been postponed and Blizzard will try to release the game in early December. (Basically, either December 7 or December 14)

The Cataclysm by itself will happen earlier and will let you play in the "new" zone for a couple of days/weeks before you can buy the expansion and access the level 85 content. Keep in mind that they're mostly inside info, they're not official and I just report them because ... well, I'm sure you all want to know when it's supposed to happen.


Beta Build 13066 - Portals removed from Shattrath and Dalaran
Blizzard doesn't want you to use Shattrath and Dalaran as portal hubs anymore, the latest beta update removed all the portal to the cities and replaced them with class trainers.

 

[Anubis]

getting closer to 2011



i do believe i at one point said it would be an xmass time frame release if not a 2011 one

Beta Build 13066 - Portals removed from Shattrath and Dalaran
Blizzard doesn't want you to use Shattrath and Dalaran as portal hubs anymore, the latest beta update removed all the portal to the cities and replaced them with class trainers.

that is fucking stupid, really going to suck for leveling from 60-70 and 70-80

 

[rcpratt]

Well that blows. At least I'll be able to keep up with everyone a little bit on my week off at Christmas, though.

 

[Cookie]

Cataclysm Release Date Postponed (Not Official)
A few weeks ago I announced that the target release date for Cataclysm was November 2. Well, according to an update I just got, the release has been postponed and Blizzard will try to release the game in early December. (Basically, either December 7 or December 14)

The Cataclysm by itself will happen earlier and will let you play in the "new" zone for a couple of days/weeks before you can buy the expansion and access the level 85 content. Keep in mind that they're mostly inside info, they're not official and I just report them because ... well, I'm sure you all want to know when it's supposed to happen.

I'm glad about the expected release date change. I was hoping it would be bumped back a bit. Early-mid Dec would be perfect though, so I hope it doesn't get moved back again. Maybe now I'll actually have a chance to get Shadowmourne before Cata with my increasingly fail guild raids.

Beta Build 13066 - Portals removed from Shattrath and Dalaran
Blizzard doesn't want you to use Shattrath and Dalaran as portal hubs anymore, the latest beta update removed all the portal to the cities and replaced them with class trainers.

This part sucks. I don't suppose they're building a new AH in each of these cities either...

 

[Scotteq]

Beta Build 13066 - Portals removed from Shattrath and Dalaran
Blizzard doesn't want you to use Shattrath and Dalaran as portal hubs anymore, the latest beta update removed all the portal to the cities and replaced them with class trainers.

This part sucks. I don't suppose they're building a new AH in each of these cities either...

Meh: If the last couple expansions are any indication, Dalaran will become the next Ghost Town. Shattrath already is. We'll be using the New/Old capital cities.

 

[Phoenix86]

Pre-nerf H-SH tanking as a warrior was the toughest, most fun, and most rewarding thing I have ever done in this game. Too bad nothing like that exists anymore.

That place was where I cut my teeth as an tank, and showed people paladins can tank effectively. Made vanilla warrior tanks cry. ()

 

[Anubis]

Meh: If the last couple expansions are any indication, Dalaran will become the next Ghost Town. Shattrath already is. We'll be using the New/Old capital cities.

just because they are ghost towns does not mean they should remove the portals. leveling in outlaid will suck without them having to port to blasted lands and then fly from the gate every time you go back to say org is a major annoyance to anyone leveling

likewise having to go through Org/UC to get to northrend is equally as stupid

 

[rcpratt]

That place was where I cut my teeth as an tank, and showed people paladins can tank effectively. Made vanilla warrior tanks cry. ()

Warriors: Working 10 times harder to do the same job as tankadins, since 2007.

Although I like the look of this new Tclap/rend thing. But my Cata knowledge is currently near-zero.

 

[Phoenix86]

that is fucking stupid, really going to suck for leveling from 60-70 and 70-80

I'm ok with the change except for this aspect, maybe they could make them only usable by those levels ala old summoning portals. Good thing I don't play many alts...

 

[Aikouka]

Looks like we may want to save our justice points. 4000 points should buy us 1-3 item(s) (depending on types).

Warriors: Working 10 times harder to do the same job as tankadins, since 2007.

Although I like the look of this new Tclap/rend thing. But my Cata knowledge is currently near-zero.

I think it's easier to generate threat on a warrior than it is on a pally. It hurts my hand, but threat is just flowin. Especially since you gain AP from armor and threat from vigilance. Vigilance on a high DPS hunter or demo lock is a free 1k+ threat and reduces theirs .