AT World of Warcraft Thread (Cataclysm, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[BadRobot]

patch downloading now, did they actually have it go live today or are they delaying till next week?

 

[Adrenaline]

patch downloading now, did they actually have it go live today or are they delaying till next week?

It should be going live today. Downloaded the patch now just wait for maintenance to get over with.

I am thinking about leaving my server for another, change of faction doesn't matter:

ilvl 358 Warlock (lacks shoulders) that likes to raid from 9 PM CST - 12 AM CST a few nights a week.

 

[Adrenaline]

Meh, just more excited I don't have to be online before 4 in the morning to do randoics, everyday. Also excited to gear alts with ZG/ZA gear. I know for the first month or so it's gonna be cancery, just gotta do them with guildies I guess.

Armory

ZG / ZA will lose their luster after 3-4 weeks and people will want more raid content.

 

[rh71]

ZG will be nice for getting rid of them blues - especially on alts. yah.

 

[Aikouka]

I've been told that guild chat on the mobile armory has been enabled for all realms as well. So you can use it without a subscription for right now (not sure how long it will be like that though).

Someone told me that supposedly the Dark Phoenix is only going to be Revered now instead of Exalted reputation with your guild, but I can't find that in the patch notes. Is there any truth to that? I'd kind of like to not spend 3-4 more weeks hopefully building enough guild rep :\.

ZG will be nice for getting rid of them blues - especially on alts. yah.

Yeah, my Shaman can get him some ugly shoulders ("Bear Boss" in ZA I believe) until Cho'gall finally drops my tier token!

I can't remember if there are bracers though... I could use some of those as well.

 

[rh71]

OMG they fixed the PLAY button booming sound.

Yes I still use the launcher.

EDIT>> BUT the servers are still down.

 

[Scotteq]

Someone told me that supposedly the Dark Phoenix is only going to be Revered now instead of Exalted reputation with your guild, but I can't find that in the patch notes. Is there any truth to that? I'd kind of like to not spend 3-4 more weeks hopefully building enough guild rep :\.

Speaking as one who has been exalted with his guild for a while - I'm perfectly OK with Blizzard leaving the requirements as they are now.


...I believe the change was for the pet, actually. Not the mount.

 

[rh71]

now that they made valor points ez mode for those who don't raid progress much, I wish they would add some better gear to the vendor.

 

[rh71]

getting terrible fps lag. I can't even run a dungeon... game crashes after a few secs of engaging. I thought it was Carbonite because disabling that made my fps in SW fine again, but it's still bad in instances... must be another addon...

 

[Aikouka]

getting terrible fps lag. I can't even run a dungeon... game crashes after a few secs of engaging. I thought it was Carbonite because disabling that made my fps in SW fine again, but it's still bad in instances... must be another addon...

Turn LUA errors back on and see what's producing all of the errors.

 

[Chimley]

If you're getting really bad lag, it's will most likely be an add-on that uses the Combat Log. Blizzard changed something with the combat log this patch that totally fucked a ton of addons. Personally, I've had to modify or update Recount, Miks Scrolling Battle Text, X-Perl, Omen etc. Make sure your addons are updated, and if there is no update available yet, check the comments at your favorite download site (curse, wowinterface etc). Some folks have figured out how to modify the LUA files on these addons to get them working. I spent more time lats night manually updating LUA files then actually playing

Did a full ZA run with some guild alts. I don't see how these can be pugged right now lol.

 

[1ceHacka]

If you're getting really bad lag, it's will most likely be an add-on that uses the Combat Log. Blizzard changed something with the combat log this patch that totally fucked a ton of addons. Personally, I've had to modify or update Recount, Miks Scrolling Battle Text, X-Perl, Omen etc. Make sure your addons are updated, and if there is no update available yet, check the comments at your favorite download site (curse, wowinterface etc). Some folks have figured out how to modify the LUA files on these addons to get them working. I spent more time lats night manually updating LUA files then actually playing

Did a full ZA run with some guild alts. I don't see how these can be pugged right now lol.

We did ZG on 3 raiding mains and 2 alts. Mains geared in partly 372 gear and it was still pretty difficult. Once we figured out the boss mechanics it wasn't so bad, but I won't be pugging this for a while

 

[lupi]

Only logged on for about 5 minutes to do my dal JC daily (still havee about a month to go to get all the recipes and will hit level 82 soon going from 80 on the daily xp only) but I was getting several error pop up messages. Hopefully by sunday morning all the addons will be updated as I'd like to try out some of the new things.

 

[Aikouka]

I had to manually update Mapster, MikScrollingBattleText and I think one other. Had to add some sort of "hideCaster" variable to function calls.

Even with that, the game is really borked right now. Some of the features in the patch notes just don't work. I tried out mailing Battle.net Account-Bound items, and trying to mail them to another account under my Battle.net account results in an error. Mail is also not instantaneous between my linked accounts unless affected by the guild perk G-Mail.

Omnotron seems to be really messed up right now as well... the other adds aren't enabling correctly. We were trying to get the achievement on it to not let an Arcane Annihilator get off, and I was interruptin' him real good, but someone left their Shadowfiend on him with his shield up :\. It would've been okay if I realized that I can purge that since I can't attack while the shield is up, so all I'm doing is interrupting (I stayed on him to avoid being out of range... you only lose DPS time while the shield is up for ~10 seconds anyway). Maybe next time .

I didn't do any of the new troll dungeons yet. My guild did ZA and didn't seem to have too much trouble. I might need to head in there soon to try and get the bracers off bird boss.

 

[1ceHacka]

I had to manually update Mapster, MikScrollingBattleText and I think one other. Had to add some sort of "hideCaster" variable to function calls.

Even with that, the game is really borked right now. Some of the features in the patch notes just don't work. I tried out mailing Battle.net Account-Bound items, and trying to mail them to another account under my Battle.net account results in an error. Mail is also not instantaneous between my linked accounts unless affected by the guild perk G-Mail.

Omnotron seems to be really messed up right now as well... the other adds aren't enabling correctly. We were trying to get the achievement on it to not let an Arcane Annihilator get off, and I was interruptin' him real good, but someone left their Shadowfiend on him with his shield up :\. It would've been okay if I realized that I can purge that since I can't attack while the shield is up, so all I'm doing is interrupting (I stayed on him to avoid being out of range... you only lose DPS time while the shield is up for ~10 seconds anyway). Maybe next time .

I didn't do any of the new troll dungeons yet. My guild did ZA and didn't seem to have too much trouble. I might need to head in there soon to try and get the bracers off bird boss.

And a new bear! Actually watched some 13/13 HM guilds stream their bear runs. They were barely making it with <2 minutes left. I'm hoping that it stays a rare item instead of everyone having it.

 

[Aikouka]

I'm also not a huge fan of the new Shaman AoE. While it's leagues better than what we had, it's a real pain in the ass to use. You essentially have to switch targets once you apply flame shock or right before it comes off CD to apply the next flame shock to a different target.

Fire Nova now erupts from all flame shocks, so the more you have applied, the better. Given the 6 second base cooldown and the 18 second duration of flame shock, it's only possible to have 3 up at once, or 4 if you have Reverberation. The damage is pretty small with a base around 700.

Not to mention, we actually have two AoEs... Magma Totem now lasts for a minute and should be dropped as well :\.

I guess I just don't like how convoluted it is, but Shamans have almost always been overly-complex compared to the other classes... well, at least since Wrath.

And a new bear! Actually watched some 13/13 HM guilds stream their bear runs. They were barely making it with <2 minutes left. I'm hoping that it stays a rare item instead of everyone having it.

I know my guild didn't get it... had some silly mistakes that cost them way too much time.

 

[RatboyX]

I'm also not a huge fan of the new Shaman AoE. While it's leagues better than what we had, it's a real pain in the ass to use. You essentially have to switch targets once you apply flame shock or right before it comes off CD to apply the next flame shock to a different target.

Fire Nova now erupts from all flame shocks, so the more you have applied, the better. Given the 6 second base cooldown and the 18 second duration of flame shock, it's only possible to have 3 up at once, or 4 if you have Reverberation. The damage is pretty small with a base around 700.

Not to mention, we actually have two AoEs... Magma Totem now lasts for a minute and should be dropped as well :\.

I guess I just don't like how convoluted it is, but Shamans have almost always been overly-complex compared to the other classes... well, at least since Wrath.



I know my guild didn't get it... had some silly mistakes that cost them way too much time.

Well Hunters AOE went from a one button channel &#8220;Wheeee watch my Volley kill stuff&#8221; to a more complex priority. While Volley could generate some kicking DPS numbers it really wasn&#8217;t much fun and it was NO challenge that&#8217;s for sure. Now hunters (Beast Master at least) juggle explosive trap combined with Bestial Wrath-Multi Shot for as long as we can keep the focus regenerated. No not the most complex AOE in the world but no longer a one button channel

The big issue I had with hunter AOE after we lost Volley was that you had to have a pretty full focus bar to keep the AOE sustained long. Getting caught with half a focus bar when the RL calls for AOE means that you aren&#8217;t going to be bring as much AOE DPS as you could. Yes you can regen focus pretty darn fast but sometimes those extra seconds make a big difference.

So I was pretty darn happy to see that we got a huge boost to our Multi Shot damage, which I am guessing will get dialed down after the inevitable QQ that we will hear. Hunters may not have the most sustainable AOE DPS but with the boost we can make those Multi Shots count.

 

[RatboyX]

We did ZG on 3 raiding mains and 2 alts. Mains geared in partly 372 gear and it was still pretty difficult. Once we figured out the boss mechanics it wasn't so bad, but I won't be pugging this for a while

Planning a guild run tomorrow night, I don’t like to PUG a five man I haven’t ever run before. I suppose that unless you get in a PUG with people that ran the new five mans on the test realm, it will be fairly new for everyone but I prefer to be a bit more prepared.

 

[wheresmybacon]

If you're getting really bad lag, it's will most likely be an add-on that uses the Combat Log. Blizzard changed something with the combat log this patch that totally fucked a ton of addons. Personally, I've had to modify or update Recount, Miks Scrolling Battle Text, X-Perl, Omen etc. Make sure your addons are updated, and if there is no update available yet, check the comments at your favorite download site (curse, wowinterface etc). Some folks have figured out how to modify the LUA files on these addons to get them working. I spent more time lats night manually updating LUA files then actually playing

Did a full ZA run with some guild alts. I don't see how these can be pugged right now lol.

Pugged ZA last night, me a DK tank with 363 average iLevel. IMO pretty easy, but then again the people I ran with weren't retarded like most pugs. We one-shotted all the bosses, and hilariously enough we had by far the most difficulty with the trash before Malacrass.

I'm going to like this zone for my alts

 

[Soccerman06]

How dare blizzard soil ZG by rereleasing it, I had such fond memories of that place and trying to get the trinket.

 

[lupi]

Stormwind and Orgrimmar portals now exist in Shattrath and Dalaran
We had a number of instances where people were coming back to the game after not playing for a long period, in some cases years, and having a really difficult time finding their way to where they should be.

Stormwind and Orgrimmar portals now exist in Dalaran and Shattrath to help them get to the relevant cities in Cataclysm; one for each faction, and only those two portals exist to facilitate that intent.

[...] Well specifically for BC you could have played the entire expansion and still never purchased a flying mount, and if you timed it right you could have played all of Wrath and never purchased flying there either. That could be quite a bit of running, if you happened to even look up and know where you should be going to begin this whole Cata-whatever-it's-called.

We try to lessen or remove situations where someone logs in after a long time to maybe check out the game again, and sees there's some daunting task they need to begin before being able to really get back into playing.

One that still exists, at least for me, is bag clutter. I'll log into alts, look at my bags and bank, and be so overwhelmed I'll log out. Those types of situations are almost immediate stops to someone's desire to log back in or continue playing.

Anyway, to you or me, yeah it seems silly (how can they not know how to get back to Stormwind!?), to many past players though it's a legitimately helpful change to try to make it a smooth welcome-back experience.

And yeah, you guys can use them now too. Whatevs. (Source)

 

[rh71]

I tried pugging ZA 3 times last night and couldn't get very far. Will have to wait a bit longer till people figure it out.

Of course the 1 successful ZG run I had it instance-restarted while we were on the last boss. F U Blizz.

 

[RatboyX]

Stormwind and Orgrimmar portals now exist in Shattrath and Dalaran
We had a number of instances where people were coming back to the game after not playing for a long period, in some cases years, and having a really difficult time finding their way to where they should be.

Stormwind and Orgrimmar portals now exist in Dalaran and Shattrath to help them get to the relevant cities in Cataclysm; one for each faction, and only those two portals exist to facilitate that intent.

[...] Well specifically for BC you could have played the entire expansion and still never purchased a flying mount, and if you timed it right you could have played all of Wrath and never purchased flying there either. That could be quite a bit of running, if you happened to even look up and know where you should be going to begin this whole Cata-whatever-it's-called.

We try to lessen or remove situations where someone logs in after a long time to maybe check out the game again, and sees there's some daunting task they need to begin before being able to really get back into playing.

One that still exists, at least for me, is bag clutter. I'll log into alts, look at my bags and bank, and be so overwhelmed I'll log out. Those types of situations are almost immediate stops to someone's desire to log back in or continue playing.

Anyway, to you or me, yeah it seems silly (how can they not know how to get back to Stormwind!?), to many past players though it's a legitimately helpful change to try to make it a smooth welcome-back experience.

And yeah, you guys can use them now too. Whatevs. (Source)

LoL a “Blue” post I would guess.

I never liked the decision to remove the portals. People already had to go to Ogramar and Stormwind to use the new Cata portals so I’m pretty sure most people were going to be setting their home point in one of those two places.

So what if a number of people chose to keep their home point in Dal? It would have cut down on the lag in Stormwind and Ogramar.

Even after the portals were removed there were some clever ways to get around. Even if you don’t have a mage handy to teleport you:

Use the portal in Dal to the Caverns of Time

Use your Tournament reward tabard to teleport to the tournament grounds.

Use the way gate in Sholazar to get to Ungoro and back. First time I found out this actually worked I was pretty shocked.

Use the TolBarad tabard to get to either Hellscreams Reach or the Baradin Warders camp, depending on faction.

Use one of the guild rewards that let you hearth without using your hearth stone.

Teleport to the dark gate entrance to Outland from any major city.

From Shat go to the Isle of Quel'Danas and take the flight point

Druids can teleport to moonglade

Engineers can use all their various teleport sites.

I wish Blizzard would make up it’s mind, they talk a lot about taking out the things in game that make it more of a grind and less fun then they turn around and remove portals making it harder to get places. Now they have relented… somewhat and returned two of the portals. Maybe they just got tired of the QQ.

They wanted to make use of the old Vanilla lands and they did a great job of it. But in so doing they made Northrend and Outlands as devoid of players as Vanilla area had been.
The only way they are going to change that in future expansions is to add content to all three areas. If they do that you better believe there will be QQ about not having the portals in place.

 

[wheresmybacon]

I'm at work and don't have the resources to research this right now, so if someone knows the answer, please chime in. Are there any other classes that can bring the +4&#37; increase in physical damage that Brittle Bones from the Frost DK tree can? And haste too from Improved Icy Talons. Shaman can, but is there anyone else?

I've been playing frost and I'm pretty tired of it, but the buffs I bring to our 10m raid are, I think, unique to our group since to my knowledge we don't have any other classes that can bring em.

 

[Worthington]

Certain Hunter pets can, as well as all Combat rogues.

I think certain hunters can grant your melee haste as well with Hunting Party.