At what point does it become okay to hit a woman back?

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Kilgor

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Originally posted by: fitzov
There is the fading norm that men should not hit women, and the fading norm that women should be ladylike.

No there is a fading norm that men are men not wussy shemen that hit women.

 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: yllus
You know what they say about the company a person keeps.

They're from LA, up here on vacation.

I like her regular friends.

Well, your girlfriend is obviously a stupid c*nt, and her friends are a bunch of childish drunken bitches. Just stay away from them from now on. And don't feel all guilty about it, sounds like the slut isn't worth having anyway. If you stay with this woman after that, you forfeit any right to be respected by either sex.

Were I in that situation, my wife would defend me even against her own friends, because she's smart enough to realize that no matter who started what, the man always goes to jail or ends up looking like trailer trash. I wouldn't tolerate any man hitting my wife, and she wouldn't tolerate any woman doing the same to me. Fortunately, we are both adults and don't hang around scum like that in the first place.
 

Kadarin

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You were justified in defending yourself, and you would be perfectly justified in leaving your g/f over this (and should probably just do so).
 

DaiShan

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Wow bro, you couldn't defend yourself from a girl without punching her in the face? You must be pretty small, all that you had to do was hole her arms down, if she insisted on throwing down, call the police. It's not cool that she was trying to hit you, she sounds really stuck up, but honestly you escalated things.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Wow bro, you couldn't defend yourself from a girl without punching her in the face? You must be pretty small, all that you had to do was hole her arms down, if she insisted on throwing down, call the police. It's not cool that she was trying to hit you, she sounds really stuck up, but honestly you escalated things.

I'm not small, I'm 6'2 175 pounds, it's not an issue of defending myself. If I wanted to I could have beat her ass to the ground.

Frankly, the issue is forcing myself to do it.

I also just hated that chick.. she was telling me the whole time that girls can hit guys but not the other way around. What a joke.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Wow bro, you couldn't defend yourself from a girl without punching her in the face? You must be pretty small, all that you had to do was hole her arms down, if she insisted on throwing down, call the police. It's not cool that she was trying to hit you, she sounds really stuck up, but honestly you escalated things.

its not really an issue with beng able to defend yourself, just sometimes women really just need to be punched in teh face
 

BigToque

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Last night I went to the club with my girlfriend and some of her friends and a friend of mine. Later on in the evening we'd all had a fair amount to drink, at which point my girlfriend hits me jokingly, and i hit her back.. jokingly.

Next thing I know her 3 female friends start punching me, seriously. They weren't joking. At which point I start losing my cool, me and my buddy walk outside. Take a breather, the club was closing anyhow.

This is where you should have stopped.

Your GF should have told her friends to stop and she didn't. When you told your GF you wanted to talk to her and her friend came with her, all you needed to say is that you don't like being hit and told her friend she went overboard in the club because you and your GF were only joking around. None of the other stuff you said was required. Save it for a one on one conversation with your GF when you're sober.

As soon as someone starts getting violent, just walk away. Tell your GF you'll call her in the morning, and just walk away.

As soon as you remove yourself from the situation, one of two things will happen:

1. Your GF and her friend get pissed off and go back in the elevator. She obviously doesn't care for you and you can dump her.

2. Your GF tells her friend off and comes running to you to say she's sorry. Now you're exactly where you wanted to be in the first place, and that's one on one with your GF and she's realized she's made a mistake.

Just walk away. Violence never solves anything.

Violence is never the solution and as you found out, the situation just got worse from this point on.
 

MustangSVT

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Wow bro, you couldn't defend yourself from a girl without punching her in the face? You must be pretty small, all that you had to do was hole her arms down, if she insisted on throwing down, call the police. It's not cool that she was trying to hit you, she sounds really stuck up, but honestly you escalated things.

I'm not small, I'm 6'2 175 pounds, it's not an issue of defending myself. If I wanted to I could have beat her ass to the ground.

Frankly, the issue is forcing myself to do it.

I also just hated that chick.. she was telling me the whole time that girls can hit guys but not the other way around. What a joke.

god damn, you make me want to punch that bitch in the face just for fun.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Oh and your GF sounds like a prick that values her friends over her boyfriend. Kick her to the curb.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Oh and your GF sounds like a prick that values her friends over her boyfriend. Kick her to the curb.

Probably going to do that... she saw the guys beating me down and didn't do anything about it. Or check/call to see if i was okay.
 

altonb1

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Were you justified? Damn right. Would I have done the same? probably so...and I'm not sure I would have been so patient and waited so long. The 1st time she pushed me would have resulted in a warning. the 2nd time, i probably would have clocked her. all of the "He-Men" on this board that say that the Op should have just held her hands down to restrian her, etc, are out of their head. Holding someone's arms down, etc is not realistic when the cvnt wants to break free and claw your eyes out, etc.

In the end, though, the guy is always wrong for hitting the girl. I think we have all seen enough episodes of COPS to know that no matter what the circumstances leading up to the event, the man is the one in the back of the squad car. Occasionally, the woman goes, too, but that is the exception.

And the girlfriend is loser-ville. Dump her now.
 

frankgomez75

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Oh and your GF sounds like a prick that values her friends over her boyfriend. Kick her to the curb.

Probably going to do that... she saw the guys beating me down and didn't do anything about it. Or check/call to see if i was okay.

damn! My girl would've been throwing down... she's got my back :)
Any girl that won't throw down for you or help you in some way isn't worth having around.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Oh and your GF sounds like a prick that values her friends over her boyfriend. Kick her to the curb.

Probably going to do that... she saw the guys beating me down and didn't do anything about it. Or check/call to see if i was okay.

damn! My girl would've been throwing down... she's got my back :)
Any girl that won't throw down for you or help you in some way isn't worth having around.

 
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From all I've read, I think you were perfectly justified in hitting the 'friend' back. It all started off as just playful joking around between you and the gf and the stupid b1tch friend had to get involved with the violence. You probably should have walked away at the second incident (before getting hit in the face), but since you stood your ground instead and took a hit to the face, you were justified in hitting the b!tch back.
 

iamme

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lose/lose situation for you, Ryan. sucks, man.

anyone (females included) who think it's ok to hit someone just because they can't hit back deserve an ass kicking. would hit a disabled person because they couldn't hit back? i'll bet it's a while before she starts up anything with a guy under some sort of "i can hit him because he can't hit me" pretense. the girl deserved pop in the face for being the aggressor. the double standard sucks.
 

reverend boltron

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Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: yllus
You know what they say about the company a person keeps.

:thumbsup:

Man I don't think I could ever hit a chick with a haymaker. Maybe a slap or a good shaking but not a punch. Unless it's some monster woman I think I could take control of the situation without a punch.

Man, I thought that for a while too, and I still kind of do, but there are always exceptions to the rule. I was wayyy into martial arts for a long time, training to be an amateur fighter actually, so I know my way around a fight better than 90% of the population basically because I have probably around 1000 hours of fighting under my belt. And even then, there are still times when you have to make a quick decision.

Honestly, some chicks are going to keep on egging you on because that is what they do. They will just keep it up and continue to push the line, because they know that the consequences of what they do will pale in comparison to the consequences of what they can provoke you to do.

The normal girl wouldn't punch some dude in the face in most situations. And the girl that will punch a dude in the face, full force, is the kind of person you don't want to be around in the first place because of the damage she can and will cause. Those people are not people you want to keep company with at all, because you just don't want them around. Those are the types of people that will pull out a gun and do something stupid when you had no idea they were even carrying a gun or thinking about robbing someone. It's called being a victim of circumstance.

If I were in your position man, I don't know what I would have done. I personally would have probably taken care of it at the club. Once those chicks started hitting me, I would have gotten them off of me, and disarmed it as calmly as possible. I don't think I would have tripped the girl who was hitting me afterwards either, just because I really don't care if I look like a punk in front of people. And if she still punched me in the face, I probably would have taken it and left it at that. Nothing good happens from allowing yourself to be provoked in those situations. The only time I would fight back against a woman is when my life is threatened or someone elses life is threatened. Like if she pulled out a knife, then I would have no problems breaking bones and hyper-extending joints. Plus when you do those things, like popping shoulders out of sockets or hyper-extending an elbow, it seems to me less full of rage than a haymaker to the face. Granted a haymaker doesn't cause as much damage to the person, but a broken socket will immobilize them enough to where I can leave the situation.

As for what's going on now, I would just wait until your girlfriends friends leave town and get in contact with her then. If she does something stupid during that time, or decides she doesn't want you around anymore, that is completely fine, because in all honesty, it shows more about her character than anything else. If she is easily influenced by these people, it shows me that she really doesn't know who she is enough to stay away from that crowd, and if she does something stupid, it shows me that she is just as shallow. If she stays calm and realizes that you were put in that situation and you can work things out, I'd say you're good to go. But either way it goes, there is definitely going to be some clean up, and either way, one day along the road, you or she is going to have to draw a line in the sand about those people being involved in your and her life.
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
At which point she punches me in the face, the gloves are off now. I turn around and punch her as hard as I could, a pretty good haymaker, to the face.

edit: For the record, I have two black eyes, stitches above one ete, and a bruised right cheek, I was spitting blood.
QFT and FTW. Those that think chicks are just harmless haven't gotten in a real fight with one.

Heck a pre-teen can lay a good wallop on you if you are not expecting it.
Do a little more reading:

After I punched the girl 2 guys came over and kicked my ass pretty bad because I punched a girl.
:roll:
I've had the case after some b*tches tried to wrong me, I corrected the situation. They tried to play the "victim" card to some other guys at the bar to see if the guys would help them. I mean, what were these guys thinking? I'm going to help these b*tches out (not knowing what the situation is) and I might get free ass tonight? Seriously.
 

DAGTA

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To everyone saying call the police:

The police have only one rule, arrest the man. If the woman is hitting the man, the man gets arrested. Women never get in trouble for their domestic violence.
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: RyanSengara
At which point she punches me in the face, the gloves are off now. I turn around and punch her as hard as I could, a pretty good haymaker, to the face.

edit: For the record, I have two black eyes, stitches above one ete, and a bruised right cheek, I was spitting blood.
QFT and FTW. Those that think chicks are just harmless haven't gotten in a real fight with one.

Heck a pre-teen can lay a good wallop on you if you are not expecting it.
Do a little more reading:

After I punched the girl 2 guys came over and kicked my ass pretty bad because I punched a girl.
:roll:
I've had the case after some b*tches tried to wrong me, I corrected the situation. They tried to play the "victim" card to some other guys at the bar to see if the guys would help them. I mean, what were these guys thinking? I'm going to help these b*tches out (not knowing what the situation is) and I might get free ass tonight? Seriously.


Whatever, I can't help but think some guy got my girl in his bed last night.

She's been 100% honest to me but after last night I'm not sure.
 

Sniper82

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I think any woman that steps up and hits a man without good reason needs to be put in her place. Had you did something like cheat on your woman and she smacked you then IMO you have no right to hit her back because well you deserved it. But anytime a woman gets in your face for almost no reason and punches you just because she has a attitude problem they defiantly need it adjusted. I think its funny when woman gets in a mans face 3 times their size and thinks they can take them.

My GF thinks she can beat anyones A$$ and when we argue I try my best to stay calm but man she knows how to push my buttons the wrong way. Shes never hit me nor have I her but it's crossed my mind more than once. But we punch around on each others arm all the time(playing around). I can't believe her friends did that because you hit her(playing around I'm guessing).