At what point do you think a fetus becomes conscious?

BigToque

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This whole abortion thing again...

At what point do you think that a fetus goes from being a lump of cells to a conscious being? I think that a lot of abortions are wrong, but I have no problem with aborting a fetus if it is not a conscious being. I know it's never a cut and dry period of time - but most beings must sense something at a relatively similar stage in development when the brain is starting to function.

Personally, I would NEVER want any child of mine to be aborted because I couldn't live with the fact that I could have had a child, but I don't deny anyone else the choice.

I have no idea when an event like consciousness begins. 1 month maybe? Anything after 3 months and I would have to think it was aware of itself. I dont think I could condone it at that stage.

On a side note, another belief I have that goes against thinking that aborting a fetus after a certain period is wrong, is in the event that my GF got raped. I don't care how old the fetus is. I want it dead. I don't care that it is not the childs fault... I will never raise a child from this situation and I would not support keeping it until birth and giving it up for adoption. I have no wavering thoughts on the issue.
 

loup garou

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Feb 17, 2000
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*grabs pole, proceeds toward thread*
*looks at pole, looks at thread*
*puts down pole and slowly backs away from thread*
 

rh71

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At first I was just going to say what yllus did. (Does anyone actually remember anything their first few years of life?) :D

Anyway, I think people are too sensitive about political and religious beliefs - I think this is in the same category. I don't know the answer to your stated question, but I agree with all your viewpoints.
 

Mill

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Another abortion thread. I guess we didn't fill our weekly quota of 700 of them.
 

jhu

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we'll never know since the we don't know how consciousness arises. however, it is clear that a brain is needed for consciousness. i'd say probably by the 2nd-3rd trimester. of course the degree of consciousness is another matter.
 

Orsorum

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/me sets up lawn chair
/me pulls up cooler and popcorn

Anyone else want a brew and some popcorn?
 

StageLeft

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It doesn't matter to me really. IMO abortion should either be banned entirely or allowed up until the baby has come out. The rest is splitting hairs. It's undoubtedly a life in early stages the second it begins, and it's not like the thing knows it's about to be killed anyway, so what's really the difference between 5 weeks and 30 week abortions? I guess I used to be a bit more tolerant of it, even before mrsskoorb was pregnant.
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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well the catholic church used allow abortions up to the time of "quickening" where it started to move.
 

DigDug

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Wanna hear something screwed up?

This kid at school I hated, got his girlfriend pregnant by accident. So they aborted it. And guess what, they married a year later anyway. What a waste.

So, everytime i see him with his new baby boy, I ask him how the second kid is doing.

:)
 

oniq

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Feb 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: BlipBlop
Wanna hear something screwed up?

This kid at school I hated, got his girlfriend pregnant by accident. So they aborted it. And guess what, they married a year later anyway. What a waste.

So, everytime i see him with his new baby boy, I ask him how the second kid is doing.

:)

Yeah, you are pretty screwed up
rolleye.gif
:|
 

Darien

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Originally posted by: Vortex22
Q: How do you make a dead baby float?
A: Take your foot off of it's head.

Rate me 1 because I'm number 1!


!?!?! :Q
 

Amused

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Somewhere around 19 years.

I'm a firm supporter of abortions up to 237 months.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Darien
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Q: How do you make a dead baby float?
A: Take your foot off of it's head.

Rate me 1 because I'm number 1!


!?!?! :Q

Something tells me a friend of his is borrowing his account. Just a guess.