Originally posted by: Amused
Pick the number that gives you raging case of the class envy greens and there you have it.
Now, write your congressman and demand the government punish those people for their productivity and success!
Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
Well I am 23 years old and make $800,000 a year/have a hot wife/own a mansion/am a typical ATOTer.
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
over $100k, nyc, and i feel pretty poor.
I gave very specific examples of how $100k gives you access to power if you choose. If you choose to have 3 kids instead of accessing that power, that is fine. That was your choice.Originally posted by: JD50
I'm confused. You keep saying being upper class is not about money (which I agree with) yet you keep going back to the magical $100k line in the sand.... Being solidly middle class ($100k combined household income) does not even come close to having power of having access to those with power, especially considering that most couples making that much money will probably have 2 to 3 kids. If you really do believe this, you are living in a fantasy land, with absolutely no idea how much it costs to raise a family.
I don't mean that as an insult to you btw.
Edit - Out of curiosity, how many kids do you have?
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dullard
$100,000.
That $100k level puts you at over double the median household income, it puts you in the upper tier of income earners, and it means you can easilly afford to get into the places where decisions are made. For example, you can afford to pal around at the country club with your local politicians. Heck, if you save up a bit, you can easilly afford a $10k plate at a dinner with the president or a ~$100k personal visit one-on-one with him. At under a $100k salary, you just can't swing those very easilly. Sure, it is possible, but it just isn't realistic to think someone at say $50k/year can afford a $100k meeting.
Sure, it is location dependent ($100k in hollywood is different from $100k in rural plains states). But, still, $100k is where the power doors can swing open if you choose to open them.
I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. I was making $50k as a cop after about 3 years, my wife was making roughly the same. We had a household income of right at $100k, and you're going to tell me that we are rich? Insane.
So now according to you, cops, teachers, etc... are now considered rich and part of the upper class? Ridiculous.
Originally posted by: dullard
$100,000.
That $100k level puts you at over double the median household income, it puts you in the upper tier of income earners, and it means you can easilly afford to get into the places where decisions are made. For example, you can afford to pal around at the country club with your local politicians. Heck, if you save up a bit, you can easilly afford a $10k plate at a dinner with the president or a ~$100k personal visit one-on-one with him. At under a $100k salary, you just can't swing those very easilly. Sure, it is possible, but it just isn't realistic to think someone at say $50k/year can afford a $100k meeting.
Sure, it is location dependent ($100k in hollywood is different from $100k in rural plains states). But, still, $100k is where the power doors can swing open if you choose to open them.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Amused
Pick the number that gives you raging case of the class envy greens and there you have it.
Now, write your congressman and demand the government punish those people for their productivity and success!
yeah! Get them! Get those rich bastards scrapping by trying to provide for their family.
time to change the definition of classes to be percentage based.Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Amused
Pick the number that gives you raging case of the class envy greens and there you have it.
Now, write your congressman and demand the government punish those people for their productivity and success!
yeah! Get them! Get those rich bastards scrapping by trying to provide for their family.
Down with the $100K family! Burn them at the stake!
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: dullard
If combined you made more than $100k, then your household made more than 85% of all households in one of the richest countries on Earth. You made more than 99% of housholds on Earth and possibly more than 99.5% of them. With that in mind, how can you NOT call that in the upper regions?Originally posted by: JD50
I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. I was making $50k as a cop after about 3 years, my wife was making roughly the same. We had a household income of right at $100k, and you're going to tell me that we are rich? Insane.
So now according to you, cops, teachers, etc... are now considered rich and part of the upper class? Ridiculous.
The fact is, at $50k a pop, you each made more than the entire household combined for most families in the US. Teachers and cops like to complain that they have a low income. It just isn't true.
:thumbsup: for rational posts.
Are you agreeing with him that a teacher and a cop are not part of the middle class?
