At Wellesley, Feminist Protest Transgender Multicultural Affairs Coordinator

unokitty

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NYTimes, When Women Become Men at Wellesley
... argument was simple: Of all the people at a multiethnic women’s college who could hold the school’s “diversity” seat, the least fitting one was a white man.

...it just felt inappropriate to have a white man there. It’s not just about that position either. Having men in elected leadership positions undermines the idea of this being a place where women are the leaders.”

...she found herself in a difficult spot: How could she maintain that women’s colleges would lose something precious by including men, but at the same time argue that women’s colleges should accommodate students who identify as men?

...And yet many trans students feel that more needs to be done...

Rose Layton, a lesbian who said she views trans students as competitors in the campus dating scene. “They flirt with them, hook up with them. And it’s not just the hetero women, but even people in the queer community. The trans men are always getting this extra bit of acknowledgment. Even though we’re in a women’s college, the fact is men and masculinity get more attention and more value in this social dynamic than women do.”

Kaden Mohamed said he felt downright objectified when he returned from summer break last year, after five months of testosterone had lowered his voice, defined his arm muscles and reshaped his torso. It was attention that he had never experienced before he transitioned. But as his body changed, students he didn’t even know would run their hands over his biceps. Once at the school pub, an intoxicated Wellesley woman even grabbed his crotch and that of another trans man.

“It’s this very bizarre reversal of what happens in the real world,” Kaden said. “In the real world, it’s women who get fetishized, catcalled, sexually harassed, grabbed.
Feminists discriminating against transgenders?
Or, transgenders taking advantage of women's colleges?

What's your view?
And what is the appropriate role, if any, of the Federal Government when two minorities (feminists and transgenders) each claim that the other is practising discrimination?

Uno
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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The idea that a transgender woman is somehow representative of white men... is laughable.

The more interesting part is the discussion of transgender men on campus.
 

JockoJohnson

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Why are there women's only colleges? Isn't that in and of itself discriminatory? I guess that's allowed in wacky world.
 

Dannar26

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Nothing worse than a white man in any role doing anything.

And now back to my regularly scheduled, society approved, unwarranted self hatred.
 

rudeguy

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Seems easy enough. He just has to say he's gay.

I thought the new argument was that sex was not decided physically? Like if a girl decides she can be a guy and use the guy's bathroom and play guy sports.
 

FerrelGeek

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Love a good clash between politically approved victim groups. :) Perfectly shows what hypocrites they are.
 

Atreus21

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I thought the new argument was that sex was not decided physically? Like if a girl decides she can be a guy and use the guy's bathroom and play guy sports.

It's getting to the point that Mr. Garrison is no longer so far fetched.
 

rudeguy

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WHOA....hold on. This college gets funds from the government.

They are not even trying to hide the fact that they are discriminating against this person because of race and color. If that same college fired someone for being black or being a woman, there would be an outrage.

Fuck the liberal morons.
 

highland145

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WHOA....hold on. This college gets funds from the government.

They are not even trying to hide the fact that they are discriminating against this person because of race and color. If that same college fired someone for being black or being a woman, there would be an outrage.

Fuck the liberal morons.
Well, they are getting $$.
 

Texashiker

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The problem is two opposing and incompatible ideologies.

Gays - I was born this way, do not try to change me.

Transgender - I was born in the wrong body, please help me change.

Feminist will never accept transgender males as they are not born a female
 

BoberFett

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Kaden Mohamed said he felt downright objectified when he returned from summer break last year, after five months of testosterone had lowered his voice, defined his arm muscles and reshaped his torso. It was attention that he had never experienced before he transitioned. But as his body changed, students he didn’t even know would run their hands over his biceps. Once at the school pub, an intoxicated Wellesley woman even grabbed his crotch and that of another trans man.

Those women have all been arrested for sexual assault I hope.
 

Subyman

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I don't understand what the guy's gender or race has to do with the position he holds. Is a good guy and does he do his job? I don't understand how this isn't racism or sexism.
 

rudeguy

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I don't understand what the guy's gender or race has to do with the position he holds. Is a good guy and does he do his job? I don't understand how this isn't racism or sexism.

It is the definition of racism and sexism and I hope charges are filed.
 

sactoking

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What's the most underrepresented demographic on the Wellesly campus? Likely white male. Sounds like the perfect demographic for the diversity coordinator, at least if the logic applied to other institutions of higher learning is applied equally.
 

Absolution75

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What's the most underrepresented demographic on the Wellesly campus? Likely white male. Sounds like the perfect demographic for the diversity coordinator, at least if the logic applied to other institutions of higher learning is applied equally.

Probably male, but not white