Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Obama is a socialist, which is just a communist without a full fledged dictatorship anyway.
For about the 100th time, Obama is not a socialist.
In order to believe that you would have to be exceedingly ignorant, exceedingly stupid, or exceedingly dishonest. I'll let you figure out which one fits.
The only claiming Obama isn't a socialist is YOU, I have to think you're just trying to decieve people at this point. Obama is the definition of a socialist. He wants to "spread the wealth around", is for socialized medicine, XYZ. He's a socialist, if you're so sure he isn't and you want to actually argue against the grain, then back it up with some actual evidence...
Socialism, by definition, for about the 100th time on these boards, is community ownership of the means of production and the distribution of goods. Nowhere, ever has Obama articulated either one of these positions. Therefore, he is not a socialist. I am not the only person on here who argues he is not a socialist, pretty much everyone who has ever picked up a political science or economics textbook has tried to tell you that. (in vain)
These are basic, basic definitions. They have been shown to you and a few other fools over and over again. You simply deny reality when it doesn't fit what you want it to be. I'm terribly sorry the dictionary is against you and won't label Obama as a socialist, but there's nothing I can do about it.
Bump for those who didn't get to see this smacking.
That wasn't a smacking, that was eskimospy showing his ignorance, like usual.
Taking from the entire pool of taxpayers and giving to those who generate no income themselves is socialism, ie social security.
Obama wants to spread more wealth around, taking the means and production from the entire pool of tax payers via their final reward, ie $$, and wants to give it to those who produce nothing, ie the homeless with UHC.
Honestly I don't care what you call it, socialism, marxism, communism, the end result is the same, a society enslaved to the state with a dictactor locking up everyone that doesn't agree with them. This is the road Obama wants to go down, though he's too blind to see and too ignorant to know what lies at the endo f the road. USSR, NK, now Venuzuala if it isn't already too late.