AT&T Workers Authorize Strike

Modelworks

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At a time when companies are cutting back this has to be a tough situation for both sides. I wonder how this will effect the public if they do strike.

Last Friday the The Communications Workers of America applied some pressure on negotiations with AT&T Mobility, by voting to authorize a strike if necessary. Over the weekend negotiations hit a standstill and CWA supposedly walked away from the table. According to a statement issued by the CWA this morning, the union asked for a thirty day negotiation extension -- something AT&T refused. The negotiations impact some 20,000 AT&T Wireless employees. The Boy Genius Report has a leaked e-mail with details of AT&T's "last, best and final offer" to the union.



What the workers are asking for :
http://www.cwa-union.org/att/mobility/
 

CPA

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So they want more money when most people are having their wages frozen for the foreseeable future. Figures.

Wonder if Obama will pull a Reagan and tell these guys to go back to work or you're out. Nah, Obama is in the unions hip pocket.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
At a time when companies are cutting back this has to be a tough situation for both sides. I wonder how this will effect the public if they do strike.

I have to wonder if they'll bankrupt AT&T. I suppose the company has been doing well if it's having a strike. This will certainly change their prospects though. I'll be really annoyed if it interrupts DSL service.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: CPA
So they want more money when most people are having their wages frozen for the foreseeable future. Figures.

Wonder if Obama will pull a Reagan and tell these guys to go back to work or you're out. Nah, Obama is in the unions hip pocket.

Well this situation is a little different that when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. They were Federal employees and not allowed to strike. So Obama has no power here.

But good luck striking anyway. All AT&T would have to to is place some help wanted ads and those people would be back to work fast.
 

Lanyap

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This is SOP for the CWA. I've been through a few when I worked for ATT. Employees considered management would take over day to day operations if a strike occurs. I know several ATT management people here in Birmingham who are older inside workers and who have strike assignments in CA doing outside work. :Q

ATT Union workers always get some percentage increase no matter how bad things are.

 

GTKeeper

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Unions are nothing but a sham these days.

Do you know who cares about unions? The union leaders with their huge salaries. They want to keep their jobs.

Striking in good times = good idea
Striking in bad times = bad idea

This is a bad idea.
 

Skitzer

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I don't believe their strike will last very long if they do strike.
Like someone above stated ...... AT&T hopefully will hire new people and move on. Screw the Unions!
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: Skitzer
I don't believe their strike will last very long if they do strike.
Like someone above stated ...... AT&T hopefully will hire new people and move on. Screw the Unions!

I'll be happy to work there to fill the need.
 

Pliablemoose

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The labor conditions today are becoming similar to what brought about the unions in the first place, you young un's don't understand how unions have helped everyone who works...
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: CPA
So they want more money when most people are having their wages frozen for the foreseeable future. Figures.

Wonder if Obama will pull a Reagan and tell these guys to go back to work or you're out. Nah, Obama is in the unions hip pocket.

Well this situation is a little different that when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. They were Federal employees and not allowed to strike. So Obama has no power here.

But good luck striking anyway. All AT&T would have to to is place some help wanted ads and those people would be back to work fast.

True, but a Federal Moderator could be used.
 

Red Dawn

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I'm usually pro union but this is stupid. Aren't there a bunch of ex Sprint Employees looking for wotk?
 

StageLeft

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If they were gov employees I'd say fvck them because they are a monopoly. But private? let them kill their employer, I will lawl.
 

TheoPetro

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Interesting time to be striking... Did that union not notice that over 600k jobs were lost in January? I cant imagine restaffing would be that difficult in this type of economy.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Interesting time to be striking... Did that union not notice that over 600k jobs were lost in January? I cant imagine restaffing would be that difficult in this type of economy.

I think the thing the union is counting on is the number of jobs they would have to fill.
200 or 2000 wouldn't take too long to replace, but 20K could seriously hurt them. There are a lot of people looking for jobs, but take into account you have to interview, do the paperwork, etc. And doing that for 20K people takes a good bit of time. Not to mention that some of these are highly skilled workers like tower repair people. Not many people want to climb a couple hundred feet in the air and work on transmitters.



 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Interesting time to be striking... Did that union not notice that over 600k jobs were lost in January? I cant imagine restaffing would be that difficult in this type of economy.

I think the thing the union is counting on is the number of jobs they would have to fill.
200 or 2000 wouldn't take too long to replace, but 20K could seriously hurt them. There are a lot of people looking for jobs, but take into account you have to interview, do the paperwork, etc. And doing that for 20K people takes a good bit of time. Not to mention that some of these are highly skilled workers like tower repair people. Not many people want to climb a couple hundred feet in the air and work on transmitters.
Hire 2k who are qualified then tell the union only 18k are left and they'll have to chose of the 2k who to dump. :) Then just keep doing that until the union has nobody left.

 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Interesting time to be striking... Did that union not notice that over 600k jobs were lost in January? I cant imagine restaffing would be that difficult in this type of economy.

I think the thing the union is counting on is the number of jobs they would have to fill.
200 or 2000 wouldn't take too long to replace, but 20K could seriously hurt them. There are a lot of people looking for jobs, but take into account you have to interview, do the paperwork, etc. And doing that for 20K people takes a good bit of time. Not to mention that some of these are highly skilled workers like tower repair people. Not many people want to climb a couple hundred feet in the air and work on transmitters.

I know you get shit if you're in a union and you ignore the strike but would all 20k really quit working when there is almost zero other work out there? I really dont know the logistics involved in replacing 20k workers but if there is any time to be able to do it, now seems to be about that time.
 

quest55720

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I am sure the union figures Obama will bail them out of any trouble. The dems have already bailed out the UAW and in a few days the teachers union. If AT&T tries anything I am sure Obama will step in on behalf the union and force AT&T to give in to all the unions demands.
 

GTKeeper

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The labor conditions today are becoming similar to what brought about the unions in the first place, you young un's don't understand how unions have helped everyone who works...

There are problems on both sides. My 2 experiences/knowledge of unions have been bad.

1) One of my friends who was a flight attendant for Airtran was physically harrassed by 2 union thugs that threatened to slash his tires and key his car if he didn't join the union.

2) I consulted at a company called Timet that is under a Steel Workers Union contract in its Ohio plant, has a union contract in Henderson Nevada, and has 1 plant in PA that is non-union.

There are union guys STILL IN JAIL from the last strike in 1996 where they shot up people's houses that wouldn't join the strike, or weren't part of the union. Crossing the picket line meant a beating or even death even if you were a 'white collar' worker.

The steel workers union is all tenure based so the longer you work the more perks you get, has nothing to do with how well you do your job.

Do you know what the difference is in Henderson, NV for joining the union and not? (Nevada is a right to work state so unions are not legally binding) Benefit and pay wise there is 0 difference. You just pay union dues and therefore are 'represented' by the union. Now if you don't join the union, expect to get the shittiest shifts, crappiest jobs, and constant harrasment by union guys.

The funny thing is that the plant in PA has the highest worker satisfaction. And get this, the workers have asked the plant to take measures so that they aren't harrassed by 'union organizers' that try to come on-site all the time.


When the Nevada plant went on strike back in 1993 the workers were ' so excited ' that the president of the f-ing union was picketing with them for 2 hours. Guess how much of a pay cut he had to take to do that? That's right, 0. I wonder if the workers knew that.
 

Kwatt

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
At a time when companies are cutting back this has to be a tough situation for both sides. I wonder how this will effect the public if they do strike.

Last Friday the The Communications Workers of America applied some pressure on negotiations with AT&T Mobility, by voting to authorize a strike if necessary. Over the weekend negotiations hit a standstill and CWA supposedly walked away from the table. According to a statement issued by the CWA this morning, the union asked for a thirty day negotiation extension -- something AT&T refused. The negotiations impact some 20,000 AT&T Wireless employees. The Boy Genius Report has a leaked e-mail with details of AT&T's "last, best and final offer" to the union.



What the workers are asking for :
http://www.cwa-union.org/att/mobility/


I may be missing the info in the link. But I can't find where a strike is called for.
It looks like the members are being told not to strike and show up for work under the existing contract. Can someone quote the call for strike info?