AT&T Uverse Anyone?

Fingolfin269

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I've been trying to change from Comcast to someone else for quite awhile now and Uverse finally came to my neighborhood. I'm scheduled to have it installed next weekend but do still have time cancel it if anyone thinks it's just not even worth it. I figure with no contract involved what do I have to lose? I can use it for 3 months and then just go another direction if it doesn't work out. The channel lineup looks okay, the price is a little better than Comcast, and I really like the idea that I can watch the DVR recordings on any TV in the house.

Will all of that being said I would still like to hear your personal experience with the service whether it's good or bad.
 
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most I've heard dislike it and end up going back. Just don't forget that most cable companies will charge you for installation, so it may cost you $100 or more to go back.
 

TrueBlueLS

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I've had Uverse for the past 14 months now. If you're watching on a regular TV, I would recommend it hands down. The HD portion on it does need some work. The compression for some of the channels are very noticeable. From what it seems like, AT&T is trying to find a good codec to use for their boxes with a decent picture quality. I can say the whole home DVR is a great function. My only complaint about that is you cannot set the DVR from other set top boxes at this time.
 

nsafreak

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Generally I too have heard that a lot of people dislike it and end up going back. The biggest issue that people seem to have with it is the amount of bandwidth available to the video service. Last I had heard you were limited to one HD stream for the household. You could not watch one HD program and record a different one. That could have changed though. I think if you want to go with an IP television solution then Verizon's FIOS seems to be the one getting better reviews at the moment.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Generally I too have heard that a lot of people dislike it and end up going back. The biggest issue that people seem to have with it is the amount of bandwidth available to the video service. Last I had heard you were limited to one HD stream for the household. You could not watch one HD program and record a different one. That could have changed though. I think if you want to go with an IP television solution then Verizon's FIOS seems to be the one getting better reviews at the moment.

FIOS is great (I have it) but I dont believe it is IPTV.
 

ra1nman

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I am currently trying the 1 month trial for Uverse. Toward the end of the trial i'm am going to cancel TWC. In regards to compression, I find that Uverse is far better than TWC. Additionally, I am limited HD streams, so if i'm recording HD on one channel, watching HD in the bedroom...the wife is screwed and has to watch SD in the living room. I've never had a dvr until now. I really enjoy the fact I can watch any recoded show from any tv in the house and not limited to watching just in the living room.
 
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Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: nsafreak
Generally I too have heard that a lot of people dislike it and end up going back. The biggest issue that people seem to have with it is the amount of bandwidth available to the video service. Last I had heard you were limited to one HD stream for the household. You could not watch one HD program and record a different one. That could have changed though. I think if you want to go with an IP television solution then Verizon's FIOS seems to be the one getting better reviews at the moment.

FIOS is great (I have it) but I dont believe it is IPTV.

I heard FiOSTV was more like standard cable.

Regardless, FIOS and U-Verse are not available in the same markets because AT&T and Verizon pole rights don't generally overlap.
 

Dirigible

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I liked the price, and the service was fine when it worked. But I had a lot of TV outages, had a box go out on me where they made it a big hassle to replace, and couldn't get Tivo's IR blaster working with their box (Tivo is much better than their DVR, and a must-have for the wife). So I canceled. My dad's been using it for quite a while now.
 

ScottMac

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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Generally I too have heard that a lot of people dislike it and end up going back. The biggest issue that people seem to have with it is the amount of bandwidth available to the video service. Last I had heard you were limited to one HD stream for the household. You could not watch one HD program and record a different one. That could have changed though. I think if you want to go with an IP television solution then Verizon's FIOS seems to be the one getting better reviews at the moment.

FIOS is not IPTV, only (at best) their VOD is IPTV. The "normal" video service is plain old digital cable, nothing special about it, with the same bandwidth constraints as regular digital cableTV.

Most U-Verse is delivered as 2+2 (2 concurrent HD plus 2 concurrent SD inbound), with an additional four streams internally for the Total Home DVR (so, eight streams active at a time, four inbound plus four from THDVR) all at the same time.

If the infrastructure or distance doesn't permit 2+2 (soon to be 3HD+2SD), then you get the 1HD+3SD. If you can't get 1+3, you can't get U-Verse; that's the least they offer.

uverseusers.com and utalk.att.com are good places to get a feel for U-verse, but keep in mind that people are less likely to post "Wow this is great" (so, you see more complaints) and there are quite a few cable marketing types posting negative comments on both boards in the interest of generating FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt).

U-verse now has more HD channels (100+) in every market in which it competes with cable (any cable) and is cutting into their market more every day. Posting FUD on the U-verse boards is one of their ways to try to counter it.

As for the HD quality, U-Verse and Verizon use the same CODECS in most markets, dialed into the same compression. Both are updating as possible on a per-video center basis, so in most markets, quality is virtually identical, in some markets one will have an advantage over the other, at least for some random period.

U-Verse and FIOS also use exactly the same infrastructure components for their all-fiber systems; the only difference with the copper system is the DSLAM, which is functionally identical to the fiber for the IP services (POTS is handled differently with fiber and copper DSLAMs).

My only suggestion to the OP would be to go with the UTP/Cat5e installation option (instead of using any existing coax). GENERALLY SPEAKING, there tends to be fewer problems with UTP in terms of noise handling by the Residential Gateway, DVR, and STB.

Other new feature coming up on U-Verse ("rumors") are things like wireless STBs, using an X-Box360 for STBs, pair-bonding (adds distance and bandwidth), and other applications (like the existing U-Bar that ties you your Yahoo page, Weather on demand from Accuweather, and the March Madness brackets / tracker ...).

I've had it since July, I gave up the Platinum Direct-TV package for it with no regrets, I love it. However, I am not a fan of VoIP, so I still have POTs service. I like "battery powered phone" with five-nines reliability.

FWIW
 

Sluggo

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My in-laws had it for a month, they hated it so much they went right back to Cox cable.
 

sourceninja

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After I sorted out my billing problems I love it. It is very fast. Has not been down once in the time I've had it, and the tv quality is great.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Generally I too have heard that a lot of people dislike it and end up going back. The biggest issue that people seem to have with it is the amount of bandwidth available to the video service. Last I had heard you were limited to one HD stream for the household. You could not watch one HD program and record a different one. That could have changed though. I think if you want to go with an IP television solution then Verizon's FIOS seems to be the one getting better reviews at the moment.

Most households have been brought off of the 1 HD/3 SD profile that Uverse used to offer. It's 2 HD/2 SD right now with plans to try and bump the number of HD streams up to 3 or 4 I believe.
 

Fingolfin269

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I can say that they told me I would have 4 streams, 2 of which would be sd. Right now I only have 3 tvs in the house and only 2 of these are hd. I can safely say that even if I bought a 3rd or 4th set I would never have more than 2 running at once in the forseeable future.

Also, this is the only option to me other than comcast (not counting the sat companies) which does mean verizon fios is not available. So I'm not really worried about whether its better than verizon or not. The question is whether it will end up being better than comcast.

One other note... This isn't my intention but I have this feeling that when I call comcast to cancel they will end up offering me some ridiculous price that will be hard to pass up. This will probably piss me off though because if you can offer me a good price to stay why can't you offer it to everyone all the time? :)

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I wish I could figure out why posting from my Bberry never actually spaces paragraphs the way they look when I type them in!
 
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also, I will tell you that I priced comparable service to what I have with Cox, and UVerse was going to cost about $70 more plus taxes.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
also, I will tell you that I priced comparable service to what I have with Cox, and UVerse was going to cost about $70 more plus taxes.

What did you have as far as your package?
 
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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
also, I will tell you that I priced comparable service to what I have with Cox, and UVerse was going to cost about $70 more plus taxes.

What did you have as far as your package?

with Cox I have expanded basic, digital, movie tier, sports tier, science tier, HBO, Cinemax, mid level HSI, and phone. I also have 2 cable cards in lieu of DVRs (for my tivo)