At least five dead in shooting at PA Amish school

[allisolm]

The account that I just heard is that a 70yr old man had had an argument with one or more of the Amish mothers. He went into the school, told all the boys to leave, lined up all the girls and shot them.

edit: Now the 70yr old became a 32 yr old truck driver. It does look like he shot the girls execution-style in the heads. He left rambling letters for his wife indicating he was righting a many year old wrong.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.
Strip everyone of weapons, then when something happens lock it down. At that point if the gunman is inside no one can engage him and its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thank you Brady, you dumb bitch, and all the other gun grabbers.

Give us nationwide CCW and be done with it.

so the solution is gun fights in school ?


imo, people who do this know they are likely to be killed, it's a way to commit suicide. people in that state aren't going to be deterred because there are people with guns in the school.

you might reduce the number of dead per incident, but I doubt you'd reduce the number of incidents, which is what we need to accomplish.

No, guns are illegal in schools! And besides the majority of modern students are unreliable shots. The solution is grenades! Even with collataral damage they will be better than sending children to a school unarmed.

 

[jdini76]

CNN Link

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: allisolm
The account that I just heard is that a 70yr old man had had an argument with one or more of the Amish mothers. He went into the school, told all the boys to leave, lined up all the girls and shot them.

:shocked:

 

[Alex]

wow so glad i dont live in usa... what a fscked up country

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.
Strip everyone of weapons, then when something happens lock it down. At that point if the gunman is inside no one can engage him and its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thank you Brady, you dumb bitch, and all the other gun grabbers.

Give us nationwide CCW and be done with it.

so the solution is gun fights in school ?


imo, people who do this know they are likely to be killed, it's a way to commit suicide. people in that state aren't going to be deterred because there are people with guns in the school.

you might reduce the number of dead per incident, but I doubt you'd reduce the number of incidents, which is what we need to accomplish.

No, guns are illegal in schools! And besides the majority of modern students are unreliable shots. The solution is grenades! Even with collataral damage they will be better than sending children to a school unarmed.

speaking of terrible shots, i was watching this one show over the weekend, it was just videos from cop cars and from security cameras.
in one, these 2 black guys come into a convenience store and one pulls a gun and points it at the cashier. the other guy then goes and starts beating up this other worker. in the end, the workers end up beating the 2 black guys with a baseball bat and a tire iron. the guy with the gun gets off 2 shots but misses the guys who are like 5 feet away. he was holding the gun sideways, gangsta style. no wonder he couldn't hit anything. stupid morons.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: franguinho
wow so glad i dont live in usa... what a fscked up country

Canada?

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.
Strip everyone of weapons, then when something happens lock it down. At that point if the gunman is inside no one can engage him and its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thank you Brady, you dumb bitch, and all the other gun grabbers.

Give us nationwide CCW and be done with it.

so the solution is gun fights in school ?


imo, people who do this know they are likely to be killed, it's a way to commit suicide. people in that state aren't going to be deterred because there are people with guns in the school.

you might reduce the number of dead per incident, but I doubt you'd reduce the number of incidents, which is what we need to accomplish.

Yes, the solution IS gunfights in school. If every teacher was issued a pistol and required to be proficient in it you might not cut down on the number of incidents but you'll damn sure cut down on the number of casualties. Obviously "Gun free" zones are working, so whats your plan? Whats your solution?

The most reasonable is allow faculty to carry. As I said above, the current policies make it a "fish in the barrel" situation. You're stuck in a school and the only guy in the whole place with a gun is the guy intent on doing harm. AND the school is "locked down" so no one can get out.

Thats just pure genius isnt it?

 

[tw1164]

I can't believe this happened in Paradise.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: franguinho
wow so glad i dont live in usa... what a fscked up country

Don't you live in Brazil? You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: jdini76

I don't think they hunt. They have Farms and therefore have live stock. And People who are normal don't generaly hunt nowadays. I consider myself normal and I don't hunt.

That's a ridiculous statement. :roll:

I don't hunt.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: jdini76

I don't think they hunt. They have Farms and therefore have live stock. And People who are normal don't generaly hunt nowadays. I consider myself normal and I don't hunt.

That's a ridiculous statement. :roll:

I don't hunt.

I hunt. Fish too. I worry about someone who makes such tard statements such as "Normal people dont hunt"........

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: keeleysam
Daayyyyyyamn, what is up with all these school shootings?

Someone put forth a theory. Its a stretch, but then again.....

Many people are leaving cities to get away. They come to Colorado or some other state you choose. They bring their warped libtard beliefs and spoiled kids. Kids go crazy, havent been raised properly and pow. You get a school shooting.

People these days cant raise kids. They just dont know how. We are reaping what we sow, thats all. Its sad yes, but maybe parents need to actually RAISE their kids and quit using some hippie libtard "I'm their friend" logic.

As I said, just a theory put forth from elsewhere. Its a stretch, but then again........

'libtard'? I seriously hope you are not suggesting the concept of liberalism has caused this shooting? Becuase that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard this year.

You cheapen the death of many by spouting your ridiculous politics.

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.

Oh yes, of course! We should give people in schools concealed weapons! Then there would be much fewer school shootings. Damn man, why didn't I think of that!

:disgust:

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: theNEOone
i thought this sentence as interesting: "About three dozen Amish people were standing behind a police line"

why not, about "three dozen spectators", or "three dozen onlookers", or "three dozen friends and family", or "three dozen lancaster residents"........????


=|

A school shooting and this fvcking dope is worrying about being politically correct...

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: keeleysam
Daayyyyyyamn, what is up with all these school shootings?

More kids are whacko today then in previous years

a little edit to my comment above..

Just announced:
Suspect is a 32 year old, male, truck driver

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: keeleysam
Daayyyyyyamn, what is up with all these school shootings?

More kids are whacko today then in previous years

a little edit to my comment above..

Just announced:
Suspect is a 32 year old, male, truck driver

yeah his aim was young females. over something that happened 20 years ago. damn

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Yes, the solution IS gunfights in school. If every teacher was issued a pistol and required to be proficient in it you might not cut down on the number of incidents but you'll damn sure cut down on the number of casualties. Obviously "Gun free" zones are working, so whats your plan? Whats your solution?

The most reasonable is allow faculty to carry. As I said above, the current policies make it a "fish in the barrel" situation. You're stuck in a school and the only guy in the whole place with a gun is the guy intent on doing harm. AND the school is "locked down" so no one can get out.

Thats just pure genius isnt it?

Do you really think that would change anything? At most large school where a teacher is likely to feel most threatened they already have on campus police/security. At a school like this I doubt the Amish teacher(s) would have been carrying a gun even if it had been legal to do so. Besides, many school attacks are planned out and thus their plans would then account for the guns (e.g. blast the teacher to kickoff the attack).

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: jdini76

I don't think they hunt. They have Farms and therefore have live stock. And People who are normal don't generaly hunt nowadays. I consider myself normal and I don't hunt.

That's a ridiculous statement. :roll:

I don't hunt.

I'm not sure how to interpret jdini76 post. Does he mean that more people these days don't hunt or does he mean that you got to be mentally fvcked in the head to hunt. I hope its the first one.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Yes, the solution IS gunfights in school. If every teacher was issued a pistol and required to be proficient in it you might not cut down on the number of incidents but you'll damn sure cut down on the number of casualties. Obviously "Gun free" zones are working, so whats your plan? Whats your solution?

The most reasonable is allow faculty to carry. As I said above, the current policies make it a "fish in the barrel" situation. You're stuck in a school and the only guy in the whole place with a gun is the guy intent on doing harm. AND the school is "locked down" so no one can get out.

Thats just pure genius isnt it?

Do you really think that would change anything? At most large school where a teacher is likely to feel most threatened they already have on campus police/security. At school like this I doubt the Amish teacher(s) would have been carrying a gun even if it had been legal to do so. Besides, many school attacks are planned out and thus their plans would then account for the guns (e.g. blast the teacher to kickoff the attack).

the amish are pacifists

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: keeleysam
Daayyyyyyamn, what is up with all these school shootings?

Someone put forth a theory. Its a stretch, but then again.....

Many people are leaving cities to get away. They come to Colorado or some other state you choose. They bring their warped libtard beliefs and spoiled kids. Kids go crazy, havent been raised properly and pow. You get a school shooting.

People these days cant raise kids. They just dont know how. We are reaping what we sow, thats all. Its sad yes, but maybe parents need to actually RAISE their kids and quit using some hippie libtard "I'm their friend" logic.

As I said, just a theory put forth from elsewhere. Its a stretch, but then again........

'libtard'? I seriously hope you are not suggesting the concept of liberalism has caused this shooting? Becuase that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard this year.

You cheapen the death of many by spouting your ridiculous politics.

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.

Oh yes, of course! We should give people in schools concealed weapons! Then there would be much fewer school shootings. Damn man, why didn't I think of that!

:disgust:

Yes, libtard. Where do you think all of our gun restrictions have come from? Aint the Repugs fella.
And while we're at it, why do you suppose kids do this crap? Because our current culture focuses on one thing. Do you feel good? Self esteem. NO ONE fails in school. As long as you feel good, its ok.
What happened to the days when you werent a ray of light, you werent the best? You were just another Joe, and if you step out of line you get your ass beat on? What happened to the days when you were held responsible for you, and no one is going to hold your hand and make sure nothing bad ever happens? What happened to the days when you werent the best, you werent special?

You can say its all political crap all you want but I ask you, name 1 school shooting that happened 40 years ago. One that happened 30 years ago. One that happened 20 years ago.

We have to face it, our culture is negatively affecting us! Until we realize that maybe this ongoing progressive thinking is HURTING us, this stuff will continue.

I'm not saying winding the clock back 1000 years in our thought processes and culture is the answer, but for damn sure what we're doing now surely isnt either.

And yes, let faculty carry guns. I ask again, whats your solution? Home schooling?

 

[waggy]

oh and getting conflicting stories on how many died. CNN has 6 died. Fox has 3 dead =(

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: franguinho
wow so glad i dont live in usa... what a fscked up country

Don't you live in Brazil? You've got to be kidding me.

Yeah, those favelas are great places to raise children. :roll:

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Yes, the solution IS gunfights in school. If every teacher was issued a pistol and required to be proficient in it you might not cut down on the number of incidents but you'll damn sure cut down on the number of casualties. Obviously "Gun free" zones are working, so whats your plan? Whats your solution?

The most reasonable is allow faculty to carry. As I said above, the current policies make it a "fish in the barrel" situation. You're stuck in a school and the only guy in the whole place with a gun is the guy intent on doing harm. AND the school is "locked down" so no one can get out.

Thats just pure genius isnt it?

Do you really think that would change anything? At most large school where a teacher is likely to feel most threatened they already have on campus police/security. At school like this I doubt the Amish teacher(s) would have been carrying a gun even if it had been legal to do so. Besides, many school attacks are planned out and thus their plans would then account for the guns (e.g. blast the teacher to kickoff the attack).

Are the police/security armed? Whats the response time? How big is the campus?

The simple fact is police cant be everywhere everytime. Is it the right solution? As far as I can figure yes. No one seems to be able to come up with a reasonable solution but are sure quick to criticize one that sounds "scary". OH NOES! TEACHERS WITH GUNS!!

Well, it'll make someone think twice before walking into a room if they know Mr. Appleton has a .45 auto as opposed to a ruler.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Maybe they can use this (And the other incidents) to get CCW passed in the school.

Obviously making schoolsa "Gun free" zone is about the tardest of tard ideas you can come up with.
Strip everyone of weapons, then when something happens lock it down. At that point if the gunman is inside no one can engage him and its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thank you Brady, you dumb bitch, and all the other gun grabbers.

Give us nationwide CCW and be done with it.

so the solution is gun fights in school ?


imo, people who do this know they are likely to be killed, it's a way to commit suicide. people in that state aren't going to be deterred because there are people with guns in the school.

you might reduce the number of dead per incident, but I doubt you'd reduce the number of incidents, which is what we need to accomplish.

Yes, the solution IS gunfights in school. If every teacher was issued a pistol and required to be proficient in it you might not cut down on the number of incidents but you'll damn sure cut down on the number of casualties. Obviously "Gun free" zones are working, so whats your plan? Whats your solution?

The most reasonable is allow faculty to carry. As I said above, the current policies make it a "fish in the barrel" situation. You're stuck in a school and the only guy in the whole place with a gun is the guy intent on doing harm. AND the school is "locked down" so no one can get out.

Thats just pure genius isnt it?

I don't come up with solutions until I know what the problem is. I don't know how this person got in the school with a gun, but it wouldn't be difficult to prevent, if it was planned for, and we were willing to invest the resources to stop it.

By your admission, your solution doesn't stop it, and it's pure speculation that it would reduce casualties, it might increase them.

And it presents a whole new realm of other incidents, apart from school invasion, that might occur, that can't occur now.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: jdini76

I don't think they hunt. They have Farms and therefore have live stock. And People who are normal don't generaly hunt nowadays. I consider myself normal and I don't hunt.

That's a ridiculous statement. :roll:

I don't hunt.

How is that rediculous?

And what are you saying when you state you don't hunt?

Definition of Normal: 1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

IMO the common person doesn't hunt.

I don't know maybe this forum is comprised of mainly hunters. and I am the minority. I would say that 1% of my friends hunt. maybe 2% at most.