At least 60 people shot in violent Chicago holiday weekend, nine dead.

[OverVolt]

Says the guy from a city who last elected a Republican mayor half a century ago and has the second highest median income in the US.

Oh geez that info has been fake for like a decade I'm from Maryland :awe:

Which is overall fairly democrat. I'm actually smack IN Baltimore city at the moment. And I've had my fill of how a democrat city works. Why did everyone move out? Probably the extra taxes on EVERYTHING. Why is a house in Detroit $5? Probably because it owes $10k on its water bill and $90k on taxes for an $80k house. Why does my water cost twice as much as the county and the water main breaks twice as often? Its a mystery. Like... where does the money go? Why do the roads have 8x worse potholes and you cross the city-county line into the republican counties and its like you're actually part of a 1st world developed nation, amaze!

 

[momeNt]

Yeah, sweet tea is about half again sweeter than soda (depending on the soda and the tea recipe of course). That shit is absolutely disgusting, although it does have some value in explaining America's obesity epidemic.

From a strictly carb standpoint, they are about the same, but soda has more acid than whatever fruit is in sweet tea, be it lemon, peach, etc, so the effect in your mouth is so sweet you want to gag.

Coke and Lipton are like 39 and 37 grams of carbs in a can respectively.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh geez that info has been fake for like a decade I'm from Maryland :awe:

Which is overall fairly democrat. I'm actually smack IN Baltimore city at the moment. And I've had my fill of how a democrat city works. Why did everyone move out? Probably the extra taxes on EVERYTHING. Why is a house in Detroit $5? Probably because it owes $10k on its water bill and $90k on taxes for an $80k house. Why does my water cost twice as much as the county and the water main breaks twice as often? Its a mystery. Like... where does the money go? Why do the roads have 8x worse potholes and you cross the city-county line into the republican counties and its like you're actually part of a 1st world developed nation, amaze!

How does that square with San Francisco?

Cities tend to be democratic, period. There are good cities and bad cities.

 

[OverVolt]

How does that square with San Francisco?

Cities tend to be democratic, period. There are good cities and bad cities.

Yea what I know about San Fran isn't that great either. Just doing better than Chicago... for now Tech, Boeing and hipsters.

And housing investors and booming real estate. Won't last forever. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near San Fran unless it was one of those delicious wealth inequality boosting jobs.

 

[glenn1]

At least 60 people shot in violent Chicago holiday weekend, nine dead.

The old joke about lawyers and "a good start" seems to fit here also.

Creepy.

Why? You're the one who supports redistributionist policies, saying that we should put more money into the hands of those who will spend it right away. Crack, ammunition, and funerals are all stimulative to the economy in a way that me saving money for my childrens' education isn't in your view.

 

[fskimospy]

Why? You're the one who supports redistributionist policies, saying that we should put more money into the hands of those who will spend it right away. Crack, ammunition, and funerals are all stimulative to the economy in a way that me saving money for my childrens' education isn't in your view.

Because saying a bunch of dead people is a good start is creepy.

 

[smackababy]

Because saying a bunch of dead people is a good start is creepy.

Murder creates jobs, especially gun murder. It uses resources that need replenishing (bullets), it creates jobs (grave diggers, cops to investigate, jailers to keep the murderer). It stimulates the economy and eases the emotional burden on the tax payers; few people argue their tax dollars shouldn't be used to employ police to protect them, however, we always hear people crying about welfare queens.

 

[Thebobo]

well ok then...

you been watch this scene to much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg

 

[HTFOff]

The death toll has risen to 14.

The violence is pretty much confined to the run down drug dealing neighborhoods. Even so, crime statistics and murders are way down from where they were in past decades.

Shootings are up YTD versus '13

While homicides are slightly down, shooting incidents have increased in Chicago during the first half of this year. Police reported 833 shooting incidents at the end of June 2013 compared with 880 shootings as of June 29. The 14 killed over the holiday weekend are among 82 shot in Chicago from late Thursday to early Monday morning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/07/gun-violence-chicago-july-4-10-dead/12287053/

The city is far more safer today than ever before.

Lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[K1052]

Lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I guess nobody remembers the 90s, it was a hell of a lot worse.

Overall crime rate dropping to 40 year lows.

 

[Generator]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib. Looking at this chart is fairly obvious to deduce that the white wing (right wing) having been embarrassed from the cowardly retreat of the major urban cities came up with a systematic plan of racial warfare on an entire group of people. This white on black social warfare appears to have its sinister origins with Nixon.

Chicago is a Democrat stronghold surrounded by a red state that would be red but for Chicago. I must give credit to the Chicago PD. The level of containment in the city is spectacular. From what I understand the whites of the city worry nary a thought of some black robbing and murdering them. Not even NYC could boast such a claim and they systematically profile minorities of their city. Its good to see that the murder rates are coming down. Maybe a few more democrat presidencies and the instigated violence will be squelched. But its up to the majority, the minority who knows nothing but poverty, addiction, and gun violence has no shot in hell to turn the tide.

If 300 million whites want to flood a city with guns and drugs year after year to deliberately stoke violence in a minorities communities what can be done?

 

[OGOC]

There's a lot of "they just need more guns" jokes in this thread for a city that tries its best to ban them from lawful people so only the unlawful people have them. It's easier to prey on unarmed people.

Blaming everything on party affiliation is pretty much a cop out.

Chicago is in its own world. Chicago is the place where Rahm Emanuel, who was Obama's Chief of Staff, gets called a racist when he tries to make Chicago schools not be bankrupt.

 

[OGOC]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib.

That sounds hard to do with Chicago's restrictive gun laws.

Are those white people also pulling the triggers on those guns 15-25 years later? Are black people in Chicago incapable of individual thought? Seems like you're saying black people in Chicago are pretty dumb. How dumb would you say the black people in Chicago are for them to kill each other because the white man wants them to?

How smart would you say Republicans are for somehow getting the people of a city run by Democrats to kill each other? Sounds like Republicans must be really smart to be able to do that. Do Republicans have mind-control machines that they control the Democrats of Chicago with?

Or is it the white Democrats of Chicago are the ones putting guns into black babies' cribs? That sounds more plausible, especially when things like proximity are considered. So then the question is why do you think white Democrats in Chicago hate black people so much?

 

[TerryMathews]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib. Looking at this chart is fairly obvious to deduce that the white wing (right wing) having been embarrassed from the cowardly retreat of the major urban cities came up with a systematic plan of racial warfare on an entire group of people. This white on black social warfare appears to have its sinister origins with Nixon.

Chicago is a Democrat stronghold surrounded by a red state that would be red but for Chicago. I must give credit to the Chicago PD. The level of containment in the city is spectacular. From what I understand the whites of the city worry nary a thought of some black robbing and murdering them. Not even NYC could boast such a claim and they systematically profile minorities of their city. Its good to see that the murder rates are coming down. Maybe a few more democrat presidencies and the instigated violence will be squelched. But its up to the majority, the minority who knows nothing but poverty, addiction, and gun violence has no shot in hell to turn the tide.

If 300 million whites want to flood a city with guns and drugs year after year to deliberately stoke violence in a minorities communities what can be done?

Not sure if serious.

 

[Nebor]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib. Looking at this chart is fairly obvious to deduce that the white wing (right wing) having been embarrassed from the cowardly retreat of the major urban cities came up with a systematic plan of racial warfare on an entire group of people. This white on black social warfare appears to have its sinister origins with Nixon.

Chicago is a Democrat stronghold surrounded by a red state that would be red but for Chicago. I must give credit to the Chicago PD. The level of containment in the city is spectacular. From what I understand the whites of the city worry nary a thought of some black robbing and murdering them. Not even NYC could boast such a claim and they systematically profile minorities of their city. Its good to see that the murder rates are coming down. Maybe a few more democrat presidencies and the instigated violence will be squelched. But its up to the majority, the minority who knows nothing but poverty, addiction, and gun violence has no shot in hell to turn the tide.

If 300 million whites want to flood a city with guns and drugs year after year to deliberately stoke violence in a minorities communities what can be done?

Don't be ridiculous, we have a great system in place to continue to turn the black parts of Chicago into a warzone. By keeping marijuana criminalized (a second time possession of a personal amount is a felony) we can ensure regular incarceration of a large section of the black male population. At the same time, every new drug (bath salts, K2, spice) targeted at their community has been criminalized at the highest level. This keeps the majority of the black male population from ever securing a good paying, respectable job. Meanwhile, for a mere pittance in tax dollars, we financially incentivize the women to have children without being married or having men in the home, which has successfully resulted in 3 generations of fatherless children. They grow up raised on rap music (produced by us, of course) that glorifies violence & drugs as the path to nice cars & success.

If you think that a few more democratic presidencies can derail our plan, that was hatched in the 1940s and constantly updated & improved ever since, you're delusional.

 

[cubby1223]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib. Looking at this chart is fairly obvious to deduce that the white wing (right wing) having been embarrassed from the cowardly retreat of the major urban cities came up with a systematic plan of racial warfare on an entire group of people. This white on black social warfare appears to have its sinister origins with Nixon.

Chicago is a Democrat stronghold surrounded by a red state that would be red but for Chicago. I must give credit to the Chicago PD. The level of containment in the city is spectacular. From what I understand the whites of the city worry nary a thought of some black robbing and murdering them. Not even NYC could boast such a claim and they systematically profile minorities of their city. Its good to see that the murder rates are coming down. Maybe a few more democrat presidencies and the instigated violence will be squelched. But its up to the majority, the minority who knows nothing but poverty, addiction, and gun violence has no shot in hell to turn the tide.

If 300 million whites want to flood a city with guns and drugs year after year to deliberately stoke violence in a minorities communities what can be done?

Why am I not surprised you're using Alan Grayson for an avatar?

 

[cubby1223]

The death toll has risen to 14.



Shootings are up YTD versus '13

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/07/gun-violence-chicago-july-4-10-dead/12287053/

Lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Once or twice every month I'm downtown Chicago for the weekend, and the city's reduced crime rates absolutely helps me sleep those nights I appreciate your concern for other people's peaceful nights.

 

[smackababy]

I guess nobody remembers the 90s, it was a hell of a lot worse.

Overall crime rate dropping to 40 year lows.

Nobody remembers the late 80s - early 90s. You know, when the gun murders in the US was triple what it is now.

 

[Svnla]

This is news?

From 2012 = http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/interrupters/

Where are all the outrage and marching and screaming "hell no we won't take it anymore"? Where are the rage as big and as strong as when it was Zimmerman trial?

Where is Obama "if I have a son" speech?

 

[cubby1223]

but but but there is a tiny uptick in the middle of that massive downward trend! That for sure proves I'm right because dammit this is my thread and I am always right in my threads!

 

[HTFOff]

but but but there is a tiny uptick in the middle of that massive downward trend! That for sure proves I'm right because dammit this is my thread and I am always right in my threads!

A simple graph doesn't tell the full story.

Read up.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/

 

[HTFOff]

For every black baby born in Chicago, there is a white person's hand putting a gun in the crib. Looking at this chart is fairly obvious to deduce that the white wing (right wing) having been embarrassed from the cowardly retreat of the major urban cities came up with a systematic plan of racial warfare on an entire group of people. This white on black social warfare appears to have its sinister origins with Nixon.

Chicago is a Democrat stronghold surrounded by a red state that would be red but for Chicago. I must give credit to the Chicago PD. The level of containment in the city is spectacular. From what I understand the whites of the city worry nary a thought of some black robbing and murdering them. Not even NYC could boast such a claim and they systematically profile minorities of their city. Its good to see that the murder rates are coming down. Maybe a few more democrat presidencies and the instigated violence will be squelched. But its up to the majority, the minority who knows nothing but poverty, addiction, and gun violence has no shot in hell to turn the tide.

If 300 million whites want to flood a city with guns and drugs year after year to deliberately stoke violence in a minorities communities what can be done?

If you're gonna go full akin and blame whitey, why stop at violent crime?

Damn whites and their high tech abortion drugs, poisoning our communities.:hmm:

 

[OverVolt]

I guess nobody remembers the 90s, it was a hell of a lot worse.

Overall crime rate dropping to 40 year lows.

Gangwar tho. Less shooting at people minding their own business and more bloods vs crips or whatever in the 90's.

 

[K1052]

A simple graph doesn't tell the full story.

Read up.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/

I've seen that piece before. I would venture that many (if not most) US cities under report their crime to some degree. I know the NYPD has been extensively accused of downgrading and ignoring crime in order to achieve their astonishingly low crime statistics.

Having visited the city regularly for about 20 years and lived here over a decade now I can tell you that it most definitely isn't how it used to be though.

 

[Generator]

How dumb would you say the black people in Chicago are for them to kill each other because the white man wants them to?

The blacks are dumb enough to be incapable of manufacturing hundreds of thousands of guns that flood into the city year after year. Only the white majorities are capable of this industrial racial warfare. The only thing these ghettos produce is crushing poverty. Some place, some where there is a gun manufacturer is who has been profiting off this deliberate, genocidal blood trade for decades. It may be even a thing of habit by now, the reason long forgotten why this box of unmarked guns is trained into the city. But a buck is a buck to the white man.

As for the question of choice and why blacks pull trigger. Sure they do pull the trigger, but their lives are the Hunger Games. Is it really so outrageous to believe that hundreds of millions white majorities are capable of influencing such violence in minority communities?