At least 11 people shot dead, including 11-year-old boy, since Tuesday in Chicago

[Ackmed]

BLM is mostly useless and doesn't focus on the real issues. Protesting for a thug is stupid. Laying across an interstate, is stupid. They need to focus on real issues and actually try to help black lives. Or, drop the black part and try to help all lives. These charts show what really kills the most blacks, which has been known for a long time. Themselves. Poor or not, there isn't an excuse.

 

[fskimospy]

BLM is mostly useless and doesn't focus on the real issues. Protesting for a thug is stupid. Laying across an interstate, is stupid. They need to focus on real issues and actually try to help black lives. Or, drop the black part and try to help all lives. These charts show what really kills the most blacks, which has been known for a long time. Themselves. Poor or not, there isn't an excuse.

They don't have to do any of those things, nor should they.

This is the 'all lives matter' argument in a nutshell:

 

[CitizenKain]

BLM is mostly useless and doesn't focus on the real issues. Protesting for a thug is stupid. Laying across an interstate, is stupid. They need to focus on real issues and actually try to help black lives. Or, drop the black part and try to help all lives. These charts show what really kills the most blacks, which has been known for a long time. Themselves. Poor or not, there isn't an excuse.

Yea, because a innocent person murdered by a cop is automatically a thug. You are the reason the movement exists by the way.

 

[momeNt]

They don't have to do any of those things, nor should they.

This is the 'all lives matter' argument in a nutshell:

Are you saying that we should go back to hosing down black people in the streets? Because if we hosed the perpetrators of violent crimes against blacks, it would be Birmingham all over again.

 

[soundforbjt]

What is the common denominator in all these areas with high murder rates? They are overwhelmingly BLACK.

I guess you have never been to Houston have you? So STFU you imbecile.

I guarantee I've been more places than you probably will in your lifetime. The only state I have not been to yet is Hawaii.

Yes, I've been to Houston many times.

 

[unokitty]

... Yes, I've been to Houston many times.

Someone mention HTown?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmhFfcyFBLU

62 second video. Contains NSFW language....

Uno

 

[Nebor]

Are you saying that we should go back to hosing down black people in the streets? Because if we hosed the perpetrators of violent crimes against blacks, it would be Birmingham all over again.

lol

 

[Nebor]

Do you really think though that the reason there is so much black crime is BECAUSE they are black? When crime is looked at and controlled for poverty, its generally found to be racially invariable.

Then the question becomes, why do so many black people make the choice to live in poverty?

 

[fskimospy]

Then the question becomes, why do so many black people make the choice to live in poverty?

I wonder if circumstances have anything to do with it.

Nah, I bet all those people in Africa are poor and destitute because the whole continent chose to be poor and destitute. That makes sense, right?

 

[Bart*Simpson]

In Chicago? Sure. The rest of Illinois? Not so much. It is hard to manage decent gun laws when you can circumvent them with a short drive.

That's a very disingenuous argument. Chicago has no gun stores last I checked yet their citizens have the right to buy guns just like any other American does so they legally buy from dealers elsewhere in Illinois.

That's for legal guns.

Illegal guns don't require a drive as they're readily accessible in almost every neighborhood in Chicago. Just ask around as there's always a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who can hook you up. :ninja:

 

[Nebor]

I wonder if circumstances have anything to do with it.

Nah, I bet all those people in Africa are poor and destitute because the whole continent chose to be poor and destitute. That makes sense, right?

I'd say it's mostly circumstances. Asian people can't drink milk. Every black majority nation seems to suffer from the same maladies: tribal/cultural violence, and massive corruption. Look at India. We had just as much of a colonial influence on them as we did on Africa, and yet they, as a people, seem better suited to developing and living in an advanced society than Africans.

It's hard to argue against that logic when you realize that any area of America with a majority African population seems to demonstrate the same issues as most African nations.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

Then the question becomes, why do so many black people make the choice to live in poverty?

Culture.

Black writers like Walter E. Williams and many others address this topic and the consensus of them is there's a peer pressure to be 'authentic' which is also known as keeping it real.

Chris Rock has some pretty funny comments on this, as well.

But, yes, you're correct to note that it's a deliberate choice for many black folks but do note that many other black folks ridicule these people as the losers that they are.

 

[Nebor]

Culture.

Black writers like Walter E. Williams and many others address this topic and the consensus of them is there's a peer pressure to be 'authentic' which is also known as keeping it real.

Chris Rock has some pretty funny comments on this, as well.

But, yes, you're correct to note that it's a deliberate choice for many black folks but do note that many other black folks ridicule these people as the losers that they are.

Hyper-masculinity plays a large role as well. We have to keep in mind that the majority of them are only 7 generations separated from actually living in tribes, waging war on other tribes. They evolved to support that lifestyle over thousands of years.

I think the problem is that we tend to give them too much agency and place the blame on them and their communities. But were somewhat limited when operating within the framework that "all men were created equal." When someone keeps a pet tiger like a housecat, and the tiger rips their head off, you don't blame the tiger.

 

[fskimospy]

I'd say it's mostly circumstances. Asian people can't drink milk. Every black majority nation seems to suffer from the same maladies: tribal/cultural violence, and massive corruption. Look at India. We had just as much of a colonial influence on them as we did on Africa, and yet they, as a people, seem better suited to developing and living in an advanced society than Africans.

It's hard to argue against that logic when you realize that any area of America with a majority African population seems to demonstrate the same issues as most African nations.

It would still be pretty easy to argue against that logic if majority African populations in the US had the same issues as most African nations, but of course that's hilarious bullshit.

I know you just try to tweak people on here for a reaction but this level of racism is pretty gross.

 

[Ackmed]

Yea, because a innocent person murdered by a cop is automatically a thug. You are the reason the movement exists by the way.

Like Michael Brown was innocent? Uh huh. They chose poor martyrs too often. I didn't say that protesting for innocent people was wrong either. There are better ways to do things. There are better people to protest about. Yelling and screaming to shut down a venue? Like the issues being discussed there didnt matter? And keep telling yourself that, makes you feel better. Not at all surprised you came after me though, it's usual for you.

By far from the only one who feels this way. From a black pastor talking about blm;

Johnathan Gentry, minister at West Angeles Church of God in Christ, yesterday said that presidential candidates should not be afraid of the “superficial, shallow” Black Lives Matter movement.

Black Lives Matter has been pressing 2016 presidential candidates from both parties to meet with members of the group.

Gentry said that every presidential candidate should challenge the Black Lives Matter movement. He said that 2016 contenders should ask the group, “Why are you not cleaning up your own community if black lives matter?”

The minister asked: Where was Black Lives Matter in Chicago, in Baltimore and in Ferguson when 9-year-old Jamyla Bolden was shot to death in her own home?

He charged Black Lives Matter with wanting to “protest for thugs,” but said the group is “nowhere to be found in their own communities.”

Gentry said that candidates shouldn’t fear the “superficial, shallow movement.”

“They are cookies with no milk, Lamborghini with no 12-cylinder engine,” he said.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/08/...r-why-are-you-not-cleaning-your-own-community

What about just after cops were killed, blm movement starts chanting, "Pigs in a blanket. Fry 'em like bacon!" If cops or anyone chanted anything using a slang word like that, it would be all hell breaking lose, but for blm? They see no issue with it.

What about a blm affiliated radio show calling to kill all "white people and crackers"? What would happen if that as the other way? Again, all hell would break loose. Do I think all blm movement people think like that? Nope. I believe most are in it for the good reasons. But just like when cops do something stupid, it looks poorly on all cops, good or bad. Same thing with this, looks bad for all blm people.

 

[Nebor]

It would still be pretty easy to argue against that logic if majority African populations in the US had the same issues as most African nations, but of course that's hilarious bullshit.

I know you just try to tweak people on here for a reaction but this level of racism is pretty gross.

About 2 hours on /pol can make anyone a racist. I think that might actually be their motto?

 

[chucky2]

They don't have to do any of those things, nor should they.

This is the 'all lives matter' argument in a nutshell:

Nick, you can do better than this. That graphic is perhaps the single worst analogy graphic I've seen posted here. If you're going to spin at least put a little Nick into it, don't regulate yourself to Newell/Jhhnn level, it's beneath your abilities.

 

[nickqt]

Nick, you can do better than this. That graphic is perhaps the single worst analogy graphic I've seen posted here. If you're going to spin at least put a little Nick into it, don't regulate yourself to Newell/Jhhnn level, it's beneath your abilities.

Delusional Conservative (but I repeat myself), you're confusing your delusions.

I'm Jhnnn, not Eskimospy, remember?

Or am I all of the libruuls, or none of them at all?

Keep on keepin' on, delusional conservative (alas, I repeat myself again).

 

[LegendKiller]

They don't have to do any of those things, nor should they.

This is the 'all lives matter' argument in a nutshell:

A better comic would be a BLM protestor burning his own house down, shooting st the cops and firefighters who responded and while they are busy trying to dodge bullets the other BLM protestors loot and burn down other areas, kill n
More black people, while they blame cops and white people.


Hey, has anybody forgotten about the dude who testified for Wilson who was found dead in a trunk after the protests/looting/fires?

Delusional Conservative (but I repeat myself), you're confusing your delusions.

I'm Jhnnn, not Eskimospy, remember?

Or am I all of the libruuls, or none of them at all?

Keep on keepin' on, delusional conservative (alas, I repeat myself again).

 

[Blackjack200]

A better comic would be a BLM protestor burning his own house down, shooting st the cops and firefighters who responded and while they are busy trying to dodge bullets the other BLM protestors loot and burn down other areas, kill n
More black people, while they blame cops and white people.


Hey, has anybody forgotten about the dude who testified for Wilson who was found dead in a trunk after the protests/looting/fires?

BLM protestors shoot people? Link?

Oh wait, you're saying it's black people doing the shooting. And they're all the same.

Because they're black.

 

[fskimospy]

BLM protestors shoot people? Link?

Oh wait, you're saying it's black people doing the shooting. And they're all the same.

Because they're black.

He's also saying the protesters are arsonists.

I bet when it's pointed out how racist what he said is, he'll whine about how the REAL RACISTS are the black lives matter people.

 

[LegendKiller]

BLM protestors shoot people? Link?

Oh wait, you're saying it's black people doing the shooting. And they're all the same.

Because they're black.

Ohh, you mean farrakahns call for 10k black men to kill whites. Or other BLM leaders saying to kill whites and cops. Because all whites and cops are the same. They seem to be just fine lumping everybody together. But then again, black people can't be racist or bigoted, right?

 

[LegendKiller]

He's also saying the protesters are arsonists.

I bet when it's pointed out how racist what he said is, he'll whine about how the REAL RACISTS are the black lives matter people.

Pigs in a blanket, fry them up!


Nice chant in minnnesota, eh?

I have nonproblem airing their grievances against police for *proper*actions. In fact, I think it is good. However, time and again we see them take up poor symbols of Victimhood and fail to acknowledge their problems internally. It shuts off the dialog and diminishes their message.

I also have no problrm with them feeling betrayed by America. They have been. 30 years ago they had it much better. Men had jobs and we're treated as men. People could move up, and did. However, with offshore ng and illegal immigration those lower skilled jobs are gone. The alpha males of fhe neighborhoods are either dead or in prison after t he y lost their jobs and took to crime. They are put on the dole and then they are angry that that is all of the pie they will ever get. It must be immensely frustrating. it is a self perpetuating cycle, we have given them fish rather than helping them learn how to fish. We have robbed them of self esteem and dignity. All on the altar of free trade capitslism, illegsl immigratuon, and liberalism.

There was a good article I read 6-9 Mos ago about how the gutting of Baltimore jobs had led to slums and lack of male leadership who kept gangs out and stood up for their people. The author said those older males are either buried or got "big numbers" (prison time).

How to get out of the cycle? You need better leaders on all sides. Ones who will point how the woes of low income among younger blacks who just want to earn their own money, and recognition that giving fish isn't how you create sustainable employment.


Everybody needs to feel needed.

 

[JSt0rm]

Culture.

Black writers like Walter E. Williams and many others address this topic and the consensus of them is there's a peer pressure to be 'authentic' which is also known as keeping it real.

Chris Rock has some pretty funny comments on this, as well.

But, yes, you're correct to note that it's a deliberate choice for many black folks but do note that many other black folks ridicule these people as the losers that they are.

so they should "act white" if they want financial security? If the tables were turned would you "act black"? Probably not.

 

[JSt0rm]

some ignorant motherfuckers around here. So smart and so dumb at the same time.