[AT] Haswell Refresh comes with improved TIM, unlocked Pentium due mid-2014

[bunnyfubbles]

I just don't know if an unlocked Pentium would be worth it, it just seems too nerfed anymore that overclocking likely won't make up enough for the other differences... i3s also have HT, 33% more cache, and AVX2...we'd need to see an almost guaranteed 5+GHz for me to even toy with the idea of picking one up

The last Pentium I had was an E2160, and while that little beast was impressive in being able to achieve a 100% overclock (1.6GHz to 3.2GHz), it was still pretty much a dog compared to the Q6600 and E8400 that I had around the same time.

Will still be very curious to see how it ultimately stacks up, but I think it will end up being almost strictly an overclocking toy than having any truly practical value, unlike if they had put out an unlocked i3...although with the most expensive i3 running ~$160, an unlocked version likely wouldn't be very practical either...

 

[Sweepr]

The most expensive Haswell Pentium (G3430) right now is $93, and is currently $99 at Newegg. So 60-80 isn't going to happen.

To be fair G3430 is very out of place with that pricing. A pretty much identical G3420 (only 100MHz slower!) can be found for $30 less.

I'd be fine with an unlocked 3.4GHz Pentium that retails for $100-110.

 

[mikk]

Their fake slides don't look that clean usually.

You have no source I assume, another discrediting as usual.


http://www.intel.com/newsroom/kits/desktop/2014/pdfs/DT_press_day_briefing.pdf

Maybe Intel faked it.

 

[Homeles]

LOL. VR-Zone? And somehow, you believe these slides to be legit?

Edit: First of all, what major corp would name their premiere product with "Devil" anywhere in their name.

Second, what is Intel going to do with their i3 brand and line of chips, if they release unlocked Pentium chips? They might as well cancel i3 entirely, as no-one in their right mind would choose a 3.4Ghz locked dual-core (even with HyperThreading), over a (potentially) 5Ghz dual-core (without HT).

VR-Zone's a really great source for leaked slides, actually. Interestingly enough, you've been proven wrong with just about every statement you've made here. You should feel reaaaaly embarrassed right now.

Anyway, the "updated packaging materials" suggests that there's been a fix to the wide gap between the die and IHS.

 

[sm625]

I hope that pentium stays under $100. Now we need somebody to take an i5, disable two cores, clock it up to 4.7GHz, and run some benchmarks for us so we know how viable this chip will be.

 

[NTMBK]

I hope that pentium stays under $100. Now we need somebody to take an i5, disable two cores, clock it up to 4.7GHz, and run some benchmarks for us so we know how viable this chip will be.

And disable AVX, and disable AVX2, and disable Hyperthreading...

 

[Jimzz]

And disable AVX, and disable AVX2, and disable Hyperthreading...

and reduce the cache.... :\

 

[ShintaiDK]

Even at 100$ its a novelty product. And it seems only to be due to the 20year of the Pentium brand.

You need a Z series board. And just for a small amount more you can get an i5 on a H81 board that outperforms anything the Pentium can be overclocked to at 3 threads+.

Maybe at 75$ or less it got a usage.

 

[Sweepr]

Intel's Concept for AIO Broadwell PCs Codenamed Blackbrook

www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-portable-all-in-one-broadwell,26338.html

 

[Nothingness]

Associated All-in-One video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rfMFgzGQBo

This is hilarious. One would hope this was a joke but it looks like it isn't.

 

[Bman123]

No hyperthreading? This CPU is a waste

 

[Techhog]

Do we yet know if Haswell Refresh and Broadwell work on 8-series boards?

 

[Sweepr]

Do we yet know if Haswell Refresh and Broadwell work on 8-series boards?

Depends on the motherboard manufacturer I guess. If it supports Haswell Refresh I think you should be okay with Broadwell.

 

[OCGuy]

All anyone with a 1150 should need for the refresh is a BIOS update.

 

[NTMBK]

Associated All-in-One video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rfMFgzGQBo

This is hilarious. One would hope this was a joke but it looks like it isn't.

Oh wow, reminds me of this:

 

[Khato]

While I recognize that the majority of enthusiasts want Intel to release an unlocked quad core for sub-$100 because of, say, a slow 2 GHz stock frequency... it's not gonna happen. That doesn't change the fact that an unlocked dual core Pentium for that price is still a pretty compelling option for enthusiasts on a budget. Yes, there are now a hand full of games where having more than two cores would be an advantage, but there's little reason to believe that this dual core Pentium wouldn't be easily overclocked to at least 4 GHz on the stock cooler, and even if its sub-$100 competition was also overclocked similarly I'm not sure that it'd lose on the gaming front. For some other multi-threaded applications maybe. And, of course, if the integrated graphics are going to be used it's no competition. But that's the thing... If you're talking $300 for CPU, motherboard, and video card this gives you the option of getting a discrete video card and awesome single-threaded performance.

As for the features it lacks... Eh, hyperthreading could make a slight difference sure, but it's quite dependent upon the workload. Whereas AVX/AVX2? Who cares for this? If anything their exclusion just makes overclocking that much easier for the uninformed as they won't have to deal with that extra complexity. And the workloads that actually use AVX/AVX2 are ones you really don't want to be doing on a dual core anyway.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

Just unlock an i3 already......

 

[Pheesh]

pretty sure they'd rather not cannibalize i5 sales with an unlocked i3.

 

[Bman123]

A dual core with no hyperthreading for gaming sounds useless to me. Still have to run stuff in the background at the same time as the game. This thing would choke hard unless you oc it to at least 4.5ghz and even then with the price of your cooler you may as well just buy a i5 and be done with it

 

[nwo]

Dual core (unlocked) Pentium + Z chipset mobo + aftermarket HSF will cost more than a locked i5 + B/H mobo + stock cooling and will still most likely outperform an OCed dual core. To me, it just doesn't make much sense for those seeking "budget performance".

 

[Vesku]

Dual core (unlocked) Pentium + Z chipset mobo + aftermarket HSF will cost more than a locked i5 + B/H mobo + stock cooling and will still most likely outperform an OCed dual core. To me, it just doesn't make much sense for those seeking "budget performance".

I can't be the only OCer with extra decent heatsinks lying around. If I can pick up an unlocked pentium + mobo for less than just an i5 cpu then it will be a fun Pentium anniversary event.

 

[toyota]

so whats the point though? spend all the money for a good board and cooler to get 35-40 fps instead of 30-35? seem pretty stupid to me.

 

[Vesku]

Would make a great single threaded task box for such things as emulation. Again if it's priced so you can get an unlocked Pentium and motherboard for less than an i5 cpu alone.

 

[cbn]

Hopefully Intel bundles the unlocked pentium with a stock cooler from the 84 watt TDP line-up......then an aftermarket cooler shouldn't be required to get a strong overclock.

As far as the Z-mobo requirement for overclocking......lets hope Intel allows "Non-Z overclocking" on at least one of the lesser chipsets. Maybe a special budget 9 series chipset?

 

[nwo]

Would make a great single threaded task box for such things as emulation. Again if it's priced so you can get an unlocked Pentium and motherboard for less than an i5 cpu alone.

That's a pretty big if. I think that it would be a good sub $100 CPU, but if it is more than $100 I just don't really think it would be worth it considering it's only a dual core.