AT Dell vs Apple 20" LCD review

[darkswordsman17]

That is all.

Now if they'll just hurry up and get a 23"+ roundup going, which they hint at the end.

 

[Ackmed]

Usually there are links in a post like this.

 

[Gurck]

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[SynthDude2001]

Nice review. I :heart: my own 2005FPW.

 

[tren001]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Nice review. I :heart: my own 2005FPW.

Ditto. Nice to see they choose the Dell over the Apple. Of course, the Dell is literally half the price, so it's a no brainer!:laugh:

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
That is all.

Now if they'll just hurry up and get a 23"+ roundup going, which they hint at the end.

Yep.

Oh, and I love the last paragraph of the 20'' review:

We hinted at truly 1080i/p capable LCD displays earlier and with good reason. We have a few preliminary samples from other manufacturers of 23? and 30? displays based on the larger LG.Philips LCD panels ? and we are impressed. Native, unscaled HD 1080i and 1080p signals are really a sight for sore eyes! Stay tuned for more display reviews in the next few weeks!

Bring it on!

 

[CtK]

i need to get myself one of those!!
someone buy my stuff below so i can get one
thanks

 

[JBT]

I hope they get a review of the 2405FPW up soon too. I already own one but it would be nice to actually see a GOOD review.

 

[Woofmeister]

Hey, just in time for the review, Apple lowers prices on Cinema Displays.

Still can't beat Dell's prices though. Particularly with coupons.

 

[Cheesetogo]

There seem to be some errors in the review though. They listed the dell as 12ms response time but that's only for gray to gray. Black to white is still 16ms. Also, the issues that they said were the 3 main ones discussed in the forums did not really seem to be the main issues to me at all. There were some more, but I can't think of them now.

 

[imported_Alf]

Why are none of these larger sized monitors HDCP compliant? They have the resolution to support at least 720P. Why do manufacturers limit us to 1280x720 HD "TV's"?

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Alf
Why are none of these larger sized monitors HDCP compliant? They have the resolution to support at least 720P. Why do manufacturers limit us to 1280x720 HD "TV's"?

Adding HDCP support would (I assume) cost more, and is unnecessary for use with a computer. They also don't include HDTV (or SDTV) tuners for the same reason.

I have to admit that from its specs, the Dell 2405FPW would be a fantastic 24" HDTV. If your source outputs component, you can use that...

 

[kolopolo]

what will happen if we dont use native res 1680x1050 ?/
like if i use`1024x768

also if alot of dust eneter the exhaust fan will it still be ok ???

thanks in advance

 

[phisrow]

I know this is somewhat peripheral to the discussion; but does this HDCP stuff seem just a bit sleazy to anybody else? Freakin' crypto on the DVI line? From what the review said, it sounds like the panel and processor can, in all respects, handle such input; but the authentication step doesn't allow them to. It would be one thing if HD content required some sweet new connector type; but this sort of deliberate crippling just seems nasty.

More on-topic, it looks like Dell is the big winner here. The Apple looks nicer; but not hundreds-of-dollars-and-no-analog nicer. I do wish I had the cash on hand for one.

 

[piotrgurin]

with the education discount you can get the 20" apple for 699 shipped. still with the dell at 350 its hard to justify though i do like how the apple looks.

 

[dirtytaco]

I have a question concerning the Dell. I run an FX5900 and I do not see the native resolution of this monitor as an option 1680x1050. I also did not see it in the tech specs of the latest Nvidia drivers for the 5900. Is it not possible to run that resolution with GF FX5900? Are there older driver sets that will allow the 5900 to support the native resolution of this monitor?

Thanks

 

[imported_BikeDude]

Using the latest GeForce drivers you can add your own resolutions. (Display properties -> Advanced -> GeForce -> Screen res and Refresh rates -> Add)

Whether your DVI output can handle the resolution or not remains to be seen... (I hope next generation cards feature dual-link DVI outputs)

 

[dirtytaco]

Great, thanks for the info. I may consider this monitor after all.

 

[imported_douglas]

Regarding the 1680x1050 resolution, you should be able to display it on almost any video card. I currently only have an old Riva TNT2 and it drives this monitor fine. The driver did not provide the native resolution by default, but I was able to add it using Powerstrip: http://entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm

 

[Commodus]

I'm glad that Apple lowered the price on the displays. $799 at least means that people who want the Apple display (for colour scale accuracy, appearance, etc.) don't have to feel bad. I'm not sure how Dell manages to offer up such discounts other than by using cheaper materials to build the frame.

 

[Childs]

it would be interesting to see the reviewer hook up both monitors to a Mac. The CDs work with PCs, but they were designed with Macs in mind. I remember something about the gamma values being different in OSX and Windows.

 

[Gurck]

Couple of questions, if a game doesn't support the aspect ratio of this monitor, is there any way to keep the correct aspect ratio by having bars on the sides? Or are you forced to have it stretched horizontally? Also can someone clue me in (I've never bought from Dell) as to how to go about getting the coupons/rebates/etc. necessary to get a deal on one of these badboys? I'm about to pull the trigger on an LCD and a widescreen would be sweet.

 

[imported_douglas]

The 2005fpw has a cool feature that allows you to eliminate stretching/scaling. In the menu there is a "1:1" setting which allows images to be displayed in native resolution as long as they fit on the screen. For example, you can display 1280x1024 at 1:1, which gives tiny black bars along top/bottom, and larger bars left/right.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
There seem to be some errors in the review though. They listed the dell as 12ms response time but that's only for gray to gray. Black to white is still 16ms. Also, the issues that they said were the 3 main ones discussed in the forums did not really seem to be the main issues to me at all. There were some more, but I can't think of them now.

Did you read the whole review? Because they covered the issue of Dell's misleading specs quite thoroughly. And I believe the backlight bleeding ("screen uniformity") was the first big point of contention. The other two I didn't know of, but I haven't kept up with the threads.

 

[quattro1]

Originally posted by: dirtytaco
I have a question concerning the Dell. I run an FX5900 and I do not see the native resolution of this monitor as an option 1680x1050. I also did not see it in the tech specs of the latest Nvidia drivers for the 5900. Is it not possible to run that resolution with GF FX5900? Are there older driver sets that will allow the 5900 to support the native resolution of this monitor?

Thanks

You dont see that because your current monitor does not support it so it will not show up as a possible resolution. Once you get the monitor, you may also need to install the .inf just so your card can know your monitor can do that resolution.