AT Article: Console Emulators: Our Newest Benchmark

[MDE]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1986

 

[Adul]

 

[JBT]

cool :beer:

 

[Acanthus]

I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

 

[Sideswipe001]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

There's still a big difference between 110 and 250 fps.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

There's still a big difference between 110 and 250 fps.

Not when the settings cant go any higher.

 

[Vonkhan]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

poor sad fanboi



why would any1 wanna play PS1 emulator games on their 9800XT?

 

[Pariah]

One of the more interesting articles I've seen recently. Would be nice if they added a slightly more mainstream system to the tests, rather than just the highest end available.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

poor sad fanboi



why would any1 wanna play PS1 emulator games on their 9800XT?

I still play NES and SNES regularly on my computer. The games are still fun and looks great.

 

[Sideswipe001]

I do as well. But I also play PSX games on it.

I remember about a year ago having to tweak it so that FF9 would run smoothly in battle (with FSAA on). Those games designed to be run on TVs sure show off their jaggies when they are on a computer.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

There's still a big difference between 110 and 250 fps.

Speaking of which, does anyone know why there's such a difference? Granted, the cards aren't exactly the same, but the 5950U should be beating the 9600XT more or less all the time. What's going on here that's causing such a difference?

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Sideswipe001

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

There's still a big difference between 110 and 250 fps.

Speaking of which, does anyone know why there's such a difference? Granted, the cards aren't exactly the same, but the 5950U should be beating the 9600XT more or less all the time. What's going on here that's causing such a difference?

They say that the guy that wrote the emulator they used has a Radeon 9700, so he does more ATi-specific coding, which makes sense because if he's using OpenGL, Nvidia should be spanking ATi all over the place (maybe not all over the place, but NV should be faster).

 

[Sideswipe001]

It's not ATI specific (really). It's more "generic". And ATi runs code better that's generic. To make it run better on nVidia hardware he would have to use all of nVidia's specific instructions and extensions, basically optomizing it for nVidia. If he took the time and effort to do that, I'd expect they would be much closer.

It's in reality, much of the same reason why in that old HL2 beta ATi was spanking nVidia all over the place too.

 

[jjyiz28]

smart. i never thought of anyone using benchmarks out of emulators. true results are shown when ati/nvidia didn't have time to optimize for the benchmarks.

 

[Fraggster]

:beer:

 

[sharkeeper]

Typo: "PlayStaion Graphics" on page 3.

Cheers!

 

[Maverick]

are they using playstation CDs in a PC to run this or emulated roms? How big can those rom sizes get?

 

[Cerb]

nice, but why did theyturn scanlines on? ew.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I like how they reccomend ATi when all tests showed all cards over 90fps :brokenheart:

poor sad fanboi



why would any1 wanna play PS1 emulator games on their 9800XT?

Because we didn't like the console, especially the TV part. I can strain my eyes much more at a TV than a 1024x768 screen. Also looks great, and helps out Blockbuster, as I'd never bother w/o an emuator . Though i does take some time tweaking to get all te visual effects working right in FF9.

 

[peonyu]

Maverick, Ps1 roms are usually 600-700 meg since they are Cd images.

Anyways, this is pretty interesting, but id rather see some N64 games benchmarked since they stress the system alot more. Specifically Goldeneye and Perfect dark, both of those games at 1600x1200 + 2xsai can drop a 9600/5600's fps into the teens wthout AA/AF.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: peonyu
Maverick, Ps1 roms are usually 600-700 meg since they are Cd images.

Anyways, this is pretty interesting, but id rather see some N64 games benchmarked since they stress the system alot more. Specifically Goldeneye and Perfect dark, both of those games at 1600x1200 + 2xsai can drop a 9600/5600's fps into the teens wthout AA/AF.

Yes, but two things:
1. Are there stable N64 emulators yet?
2. Yo can't put the original game i yor PC andplay it, so there's a bit of a legal issue, unless you get the game, get a thingie to tip the ROM, and then use it.

 

[tapir]

If you own a game, it's legal to download and use the ROM.
In fact I think it's legal for a given amount of time (24 hours or something) to have ROMS on your computer that they don't own. So AT could work around legalities and do N64 emulations

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: tapir
If you own a game, it's legal to download and use the ROM.
In fact I think it's legal for a given amount of time (24 hours or something) to have ROMS on your computer that they don't own. So AT could work around legalities and do N64 emulations

...OR they could just buy whatever game it is for 10 dollars used on Ebay and then get a Z64 (lol more lik 200 dollars) and do it that way :\

Either way they aren't using PSX Roms. They probably have the game though. I would find it ridiculous for them to pirate it. Besides...just run it from the freaking CDROM

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: tapir
If you own a game, it's legal to download and use the ROM.
In fact I think it's legal for a given amount of time (24 hours or something) to have ROMS on your computer that they don't own. So AT could work around legalities and do N64 emulations

...OR they could just buy whatever game it is for 10 dollars used on Ebay and then get a Z64 (lol more lik 200 dollars) and do it that way :\

Either way they aren't using PSX Roms. They probably have the game though. I would find it ridiculous for them to pirate it. Besides...just run it from the freaking CDROM

Right. It's all of $10 (OK, maybe closer to $30 for FF9) and 15 minutes of setup time.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: tapir
If you own a game, it's legal to download and use the ROM.
In fact I think it's legal for a given amount of time (24 hours or something) to have ROMS on your computer that they don't own. So AT could work around legalities and do N64 emulations

Where did you get this (mis)information? It's a violation of the DMCA since the PSX utilized copyright protection. Unfortunately, in the USA, personal rights to fair use have taken a back seat to laws such as the DMCA. Just go into a music store if you don't believe me.