Asynchronous 2.4C@3.45 GHz

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stevejst

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PCMark2002 and Sandra

CPU 8595
Mem 9414
HDD 1503

Sandra: 6066/6062

3.444 GHz to be precise.
This is FSB 287, Memory 191. 3:2. Memory timings 2-3-2-6. Springdale IS7-E.
No GAT. That would be another 5-6%. And unlike with somebody else here, the picture is a proof. And this is stable only I have to run 1.6V on the CPU which is not particularly attractive to me.
 
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stevejst

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That would be useless for I am not playing games (imagine that) except for chess, and in 16-17 PCs of mine the best card to be found is Radeon 8500, again since I care little about computer games.
If I can somehow benchmark GNU chess then we can talk about that. :D
 
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sman789

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Lemme throw in my stable 3.3 w/ 1.55V
2-7-3-3 (havent tried higher yet)
*pcmarkin now*:)
also 3dmark:)
 
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sman789

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that would mean ddr448 on my pc3200:D....its not, 3:2= ddr373
the timings are very relaxed, i'll try tighter soon
PCmark
3dmarking now
 
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stevejst

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You have darn good memory score for 373. It really blows in the face to those that think that synchronicity is so important.
 
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pm

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Crafty, which is part of the SpecINT CPU 2000 benchmark, is a chess benchmark based, I believe, on an algorithm similar to GNU Chess.
Crafty page

Why not run GAT?
 
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stevejst

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Why not run GAT?
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That would crash my setup, I believe video/memory get scorched. I can run it only on much slower FSB. Say 262 MHz.
I am geting IC7 next week only I doubt to have much time to play with it.
 
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Interesting.

So, what's your crafty score? :)

By the way, those are impressive PCMark scores. I can't touch them. What HD is that? I'm a little over half with my WD120JB.
 
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sman789

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3dmark
the 9600pro is oced midrange
i cant seem to get it to the high stuff like 500+/350+

my raid0 is set up for 64 strip size, the first tests i did were 2000+scores now its sown to this...iono if the strip size matters on ide>sata drives. I had them very first on 128 and it was around the same score.

(sizes are 4, 16, 32, 64, 128)
 
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stevejst

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I added the scores for Maxtor. It is a great UATA drive. In fact Maxtor Ultra SATA is as fast or faster than Raptor. The best of all is that you could buy UATA for less than $80 AR last week in Staples. I even got the one with controller card in it though I have no use for it. 80 gig Ultra does just a little worse, over 1,300 on PCMark2002. Office Depot had it for $50 AR two weeks ago.
 
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stevejst

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Now Thugsrook, want to debate this first score, which is comparable to mine?
Your is synchronous and mine is not.
"Street racer" is giving your memory boost of about 400+ (I know that since that is the delta on 260-270 FSB where I can run "street racer"), I believe you know that too. So without that you'd have about 9,800 or less. On roughly the same CPU clock and with rougly the same memory clock like me.

Meaning your syncronicity adds up to less than 400 on memory scores. I am guessing that 5 MHz FSB would erase that. That is what I claimed before and that is the point. ;)

I know you might say that I have advantage of HT processor, but looking at your CPU marks, apparently that is not as relevant since you obivously have a better board (better exactly at the memory scores!) as we all know and also you are using more aggressive timings (2-2-2-6) as compared to mine (2-3-2-6). Mine 3 is on tRCD which means it really means something.

Btw, I can actually go higher than 287 but I need to increase core voltage to 1.65V, and I don't think that any risk on my CPU is worth of a pissing contest with you. The toilet is all yours. Talking about relevant arguments. ;)
 
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sman----your score isn't all that bad considering that OC. I get 4059, but that's with 489/348.

My card isn't completely stable (tearing, artifacts....) even 1Mhz above that. Maybe we can get better OC's with better cooling?
 
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good but maxpc has a 3.2c running at 3.53 with 500mgz ddr(Corsair memory not yet releaced)
 
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Yeah, there are people with scores that make ours look pretty sad. 2.4C->3.38 (Asus math), 448DDR
CPU 8305
Mem 9988
HD 1302
My HD sucks pretty bad for being a Raptor. It's a P4P800 problem.
 
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stevejst

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My HD sucks pretty bad for being a Raptor. It's a P4P800 problem.
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No it doesn't! I have seen many Raptor single in 1300+, so your Raptor is OK.
The new Maxtor drives are amazingly good drives. I know that since I have two 160 gig Ultras and 1 80 gig Ultra. My "older" 80 gig Maxtor was churning more like 1,000-1,100 scores. My 80 gig is doing 1,300+. Apparently less plates than 160 gig.
It is similar with 9 SATA (if you need SATA for RAID):
Check it out here.
Similar drive, with different interface, and similar results.

Besides I got it in Staples for $72.xx AR, that is less than $0.50 for a gigabyte. Of course I believe your Raptor should last longer.
 
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sman789

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Originally posted by: lodog00
sman----your score isn't all that bad considering that OC. I get 4059, but that's with 489/348.

My card isn't completely stable (tearing, artifacts....) even 1Mhz above that. Maybe we can get better OC's with better cooling?
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yeah, i'm already overdoing it with air cooling......i want prometia:D
FANS!!!
 
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AnAndAustin

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:cool: Do you guys have any articles or info on the perf impact running async RAM vs sync RAM on an o/c'ed P4C 800FSB CPU? DDR400-PC3200 is so cheap, available and certified while PC3500-PC3700 certainly isn't. Does it really only take a 5mhz FSB increase to overcome the perf penalty of async RAM and is that 5mhz with or without QDR? Thanks for anyone who can offer info. ;)
 
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stevejst

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I do not know of any 2-2-2-6 PC 3500 or PC 3700 ram. That is all relaxed like 3-4-4-8 or at best 2-3-3-6.
Meaning it is a total waste of money buying that unless you are really fixated to run it in sync with FSB.
So if you can buy BH-5 or CH-5 Winbond and Northwood 2.6C, for Christ sake use 5:4 and with timings like 2-2-2-5 on 260:208 on a board like IC7 or P4C800 (or similar Canterwood) you can easily achive impressive bandwidth.
Provided that your CPU can do 3.38 GHz.
 
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Ironically, an Athlon XP 3200+ is much faster than an Intel Pentium 4 3200 mhz in crafty, according to SPEC.
 
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