ASUS Warranty/RMA Service: A Horror Story

xylem

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This turned out to be sort of long, but it's probably worth the read for some people. :)


I had a P6T Deluxe V2 that went bad some time go.. It just stopped posting. I finally got around to filing for warranty service on April 2, ignorant at the time of the horrible experience, and complete waste of time, which lay in wait for me at the hands of Asus.

They received my board quickly, and interestingly marked a receipt date of 3 business days after it was actually delivered. About a week after the "receipt date", they shipped me a replacement.. When i got it, and opened the box, I was quite surprised to find that the replacement motherboard was dirty.. not just dusty from use, but filthy.. and had a serial ATA port completely broken off the board (with the connector/traces sticking up). This hadn't happened in shipping, as the anti-static bag was sealed and there was no sign of the connector in the bag or even in the box.. which, to me, suggests either serious negligence, if someone had actually inspected and tested the board, which they claim they do, or complete disregard for me as a customer and my right to an undamaged, functional board, if someone had actually inspected it, noticed it, and made a conscious decision to send it anyway.

So.. back on the phone with the Asus service department. They (of course) approved a replacement, after I had emailed them with a picture of the shoddy board that I had just received. The customer service rep. actually authorized cross shipping to me, which was nice, and applied for upgraded shipping. They contacted me after they had "secured" a replacement for me about a day later. I sent them the board I had, and... heard nothing of being cross-shipped a replacement. Contacting them again, after a couple days, I was told that the reason I hadn't been sent a board is that someone "probably messed up" and gave the board which had been secured for me to another customer. So, I think it was 7 or 8 business days after they received that board back that they finally did send another replacement, and they had ignored or denied the formal request for upgraded shipping even after I had spoken with 3 primary reps and 2 supervisors about my experience. On a side note, the primary reps were all nice, very polite, and understanding about the situation, and none of them was surprised that I had received a bad board back from RMA. One of them actually got into it with me (in a positive way), complaining about the lack of professionalism in their RMA department, at length, in part because he'd had to hear about it from so many dissatisfied customers. One of the supervisors was rude, the other I would describe as unsympathetic, and both dismissed my experience in an offhand way and refused to support the request for upgraded shipping, even after they had failed to cross ship (Their cross-shipping includes upgraded shipping service).

Finally, the day came!.. I had my second replacement board. This was obviously a different board, as it appeared to be in perfect shape, so I swallowed my discontent over the prior experience, and put my computer back together, assuming all would be well. Powered up, the fans whirred to life, but that was it.. no post, tested with 4 different brands of memory, 3 different video cards, two different power supplies, and no memory error beep when the slots were empty. I then went and tested all of my other primary hardware with an x58 Gigabyte board, as I could hardly believe that they would send another broken board, but it all checked out fine: It was another bad board (which had supposedly been tested for functionality prior to being sent, which I don't believe).

So.. back on the phone with the Asus service department. This time, I was to be "taken care of" by their 3rd RMA department. I spoke to one of their 3rd level support people, and while he understood the situation and projected a friendly demeanor with respect to resolving my issue, and basically confirmed my suspicion about a lack of competence and integrity in the first tier of RMA service during our conversation, he refused to authorize cross shipping or upgraded shipping. This time, the second bad replacement board would be going to a different place.. this one in California (My original, and the first bad replacement, had gone to Indiana).

The board was delivered to them on June 12, and I've been waiting patiently to finally receive a working motherboard. Finally, last Wednesday, June 20, 6 business days after the board had been delivered to them, I got an email from their RMA department: They claim that the board had gotten a dinged corner during shipping (They sent me a picture of it), and are refusing to honor the warranty on the board on that basis, stating that it makes the board irreparable, and offering to send me a working board for $213.50, and giving me a whole 2-day window in which to pay them before they send the damaged/nonfunctional board back to me.

Firstly, I think they should have noticed what they claim to be shipping damage before that much time had elapsed. Secondly, if the damage did occur during shipping as they claim, I would understand refusing warranty service... had this not been my third time sending a board to them to get a working one, and were the damage actually significant enough to prevent repair, which it does not appear to be; The corner is dinged, not even to an extent which would impede a mounting screw, and there isn't any damage to electronic components or traces.

I'm going to try to talk to their 3rd tier service again on Monday, if it isn't too late.. If that doesn't pay off, my tale is off to the BBB, whom I have never before contacted, and whatever relevant corporate mailing address(es) I can find.

I would like to say that the first-tier support people (I have probably spoken with 6-8 of them), while they weren't really able to do anything to help the situation, were all considerate, polite, and competent.. and no, I wasn't rude to anyone, but I did get steely with the two supervisors after they communicated a lack of interest in remedying the failures of their RMA department.

I am a computer technician/consultant, for a living, and I won't be recommending Asus hardware purchases, for the time being, since I consider viability of warranty service to be a factor when recommending expensive hardware. I now regret endorsing Asus, to my clients, as a preferred brand for component and system (laptop) purchases.
 

SilthDraeth

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Are you sure you don't have a bad PSU? My PSU that ruined my motherboard and video card acted fine most the time. But my board started having issues posting, and eventually wouldn't boot anymore. I tested that PSU with a cheapo Staples easytech style tester, and it was good, even load tested the 12v rail, and it was fine, but for whatever reason the power was dirty or something and fried my motherboard and graphics card.

I even booted another system with the same PSU and it booted fine, so it seemed like random occurences. Replaced PSU and no problems.

The problem though, on the 2 replacement motherboards I received is I tried them both with the faulty PSU first, and that pretty much ruined them so by the time I got another PSU the motherboard was ruined from the first.

You can't always use a loaner board to "test" your PSU and make sure it is behaving properly, as that loaner board might have some more tolerance, or the PSU might behave the few times you are trying it out, and then misbehave again.

Sounds crazy, but it happened to me. *Note, I am not excusing Asus for refusing to send ya a board, considering the first one they sent was junk, that happens now and then, espescially on older boards, it might have got marked as a refurb and working, albeit minus a SATA connector*

Anyways, while waiting for your new motherboard, if possible I would get your PSU really checked out.

Speaking of the PSU, what model and brands are they?
 

cisco kidd

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I hope they don't give me a headache my Asus CHIV 890FX which is awesome has just gone dead, well it works but when you enter bios and make changes they are not retained, it now will not even post startup window to allow me into the bios, I have read others whith the issue and I know it is just borked
 

mudy

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I hope this is not the case for me!! I'm having issues with my board too and after reading this post I'm worried like hell!!!! Although, sorry to hear the trouble you had to go through bro!! I think this is where evga usually wins the heart!!!
 

xylem

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Are you sure you don't have a bad PSU? My PSU that ruined my motherboard and video card acted fine most the time. But my board started having issues posting, and eventually wouldn't boot anymore. I tested that PSU with a cheapo Staples easytech style tester, and it was good, even load tested the 12v rail, and it was fine, but for whatever reason the power was dirty or something and fried my motherboard and graphics card.

I even booted another system with the same PSU and it booted fine, so it seemed like random occurences. Replaced PSU and no problems.

The problem though, on the 2 replacement motherboards I received is I tried them both with the faulty PSU first, and that pretty much ruined them so by the time I got another PSU the motherboard was ruined from the first.

You can't always use a loaner board to "test" your PSU and make sure it is behaving properly, as that loaner board might have some more tolerance, or the PSU might behave the few times you are trying it out, and then misbehave again.

Sounds crazy, but it happened to me. *Note, I am not excusing Asus for refusing to send ya a board, considering the first one they sent was junk, that happens now and then, espescially on older boards, it might have got marked as a refurb and working, albeit minus a SATA connector*

Anyways, while waiting for your new motherboard, if possible I would get your PSU really checked out.

Speaking of the PSU, what model and brands are they?


The notion of a quirky PSU doesn't sound at all crazy. PSUs can be electrically complicated, and if one of the components is marginally defective, the computer system that it is powering can behave in any number of odd ways.

They are both Enhance ENP-5150GH. I also tested briefly with a beefy 700W unit that was pulled from an Alienware system which was being upgraded.

Both of the Enhance units have been used for many hours to power other systems (One of them is powering this system now), and I think it's highly unlikely that any of the three PSUs is putting out dirty power.

Additionally, these are boards i received from ASUS, and hadn't had any time to be exposed to a potentially quirky PSU for any considerable period of time while in my hands, even in the (very) unlikely case that one of the PSUs is bad. The first board had physical damage (It should not have been sent to me under any circumstances, as an RMA replacement, and it was sort of shocking to see it when I unpacked it), and I never tested it. The second board looked good but had 0 functionality.. not even post-fail beep codes (It should not have been sent to me under the circumstance that they had actually tested it, which they claim to do, but which I doubt happened in this case).



I hope they don't give me a headache my Asus CHIV 890FX which is awesome has just gone dead, well it works but when you enter bios and make changes they are not retained, it now will not even post startup window to allow me into the bios, I have read others whith the issue and I know it is just borked


If they have enough known good stock in that model, I think there's a very good chance you'll get a good one back. I think that one of the complicating factors in my case is that they had very little, or no, known good stock in the model of board that I had sent in, and they apparently don't have a practical way to handle that situation.. I suggested that they just send a different model that they have in stock, but they didn't.
 

Rifter

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This is just... wow.... dont even know what to say. Other than im never giving Asus my money ever again. Other than the two post currently ongoing about asus rma lack of service i have read numerous similer report on other sites over the last year. Its sad to see one of my goto mobo makers for the last 15 years turn to shit like this but i guess its time to start looking into MSI and gigabyte for my next purchase, or EVGA.

RIP asus, as im sure it wont take long for them to fold if they continue this craptastic level of customer service.
 

SilthDraeth

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Xylem, sounds ok. My bad psu powered my machine without issue for months, as I never turned it off. Didn't even know it was bad until I had to turn system off to move it to new house (carried it down there, was only moving 3 houses down the block) and it wouldn't post again. No ram beep codes or anything. After resetting cmos and pulling batter, and unplugging and replugging system I finally got it to post. It ran fine for several more months.

Anyways, good luck getting your issue sorted. It does suck when they run out of supply for the board you are trying to get serviced.
 

Tsavo

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MSI is on the worst side of my list!!

I'm on 17 days and counting at waiting for MSI to return or send me a replacement mainboard.

I'm not really impressed at this point.
 

Dislikeyou

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Can't you exchange it at the store where you bought it? I had an ASUS Z77 V-Pro that i had to get exchanged, i sent it in to the store and got a reply 2 days later that they will send it back to me since i have bent the CPU pins. Yes, it was my own fault but i was hoping that they would be stupid and not notice. If i did not bent the CPU pins i would have gotten a new motherboard within 5 days.
 

AE-Ruffy

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this is why i haven't bought an ROG board yet, I want to, I really want a Gene-V. But untill I can buy it locally I wont touch the damn brand.
 

p_monks33

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I feel for you man. I also agree with the above statements on MSI. They have some , for lack of better terms " Craptacular" customer service. I have never complained about talking to someone in India, or anywhere else for that matter, due to the dialect they use, but for crying out loud, MSI had a guy who barely spoke English pick up the phone and just say "hello" I thought I had the wrong number. I can't believe the lack of professionalism they have, and to add too it the lack of respect toward a customer. I still don't have my busted GTX 680 back from them after 3 weeks and they tried to tell me it was lost in shipping, when Fedex shows it was signed for at the front desk. I dunno about corporations anymore, its not about customer service and handshakes anymore.
 

firejumper

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I have also had the run around with asus. I sent a bad board to them three times and finally ended up trashing the board. i also was a really big fan of asus but not quite so much anymore.
 

LoveMachine

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I had posted in the "other" Asus RMA thread with a positive story, but I'm starting to change my song. I'm still waiting to hear from them after more than a week regarding a replacement board, when the initial quote was a 48 hour response time.