Question Asus USB3.0 Bracket can be used on a new motherboard?

[b4u]

Hi,

I need some opinions on checking if an USB3.0 bracket can be used on an updated motherboard after a system upgrade.

So basically I've upgraded from an Asus P8P67 EVO motherboard:

P8P67 EVO | Motherboards | ASUS Global

www.asus.com

That motherboard came with an "ASUS USB3.0 Bracket":



And presents the following USB specs:



That bracket was connected on P8P67 EVO motherboard where expected, and of course worked without any problems:




Now, I have upgraded the machine, and I have a new Asus PRIME Z390-P motherboard:

PRIME Z390-P | Motherboards | ASUS Global

Intel Z390 motherboard with ASUS OptiMem II for best memory overclocking, and 5X Protection III hardware safeguards

www.asus.com

Unfortunately the motherboard package did not include a similar bracket, and the specs are a bit different, of course:



The connector though, seems pretty similar to my previous motherboard:



Both connectors are very similar but for minor pin identifiers:

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The bracket itself should not have any electronics involved, it should be a direct connection between the connector endpoint and the bracket USB type A female plugs (never opened one to check).

But is it? So basically and before just connecting the thing and hope for the best, anyone has an idea if it works?


Thanks in advance.

 

[Steltek]

USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 gen 1 are the same thing (it was renamed due to licensing issues with the IP). As a result, they are the same connectors with the same pinouts (on the old diagram, Vbus designates +5v power).

I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Since it's a standard 19-pin front connector, it should work as-is. Shouldn't be any trouble.

If you want to take full advantage of both 19-pin FP connectors on your new mainboard, have you considered a new 3.5"/5.25" bay USB adaptor panel?

 

[GrumpyMan]

Did that with my mobo, among other adaptors, even though mine is a Z370, works great, no problems!

 

[b4u]

USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 gen 1 are the same thing (it was renamed due to licensing issues with the IP). As a result, they are the same connectors with the same pinouts (on the old diagram, Vbus designates +5v power).

I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work.

Thank you for your help. Didn't know the licensing situation, but I was almost assuming Vbus and +5v power would be the same.
Still, better ask first, and burn latter ... guess it will not burn then

Since it's a standard 19-pin front connector, it should work as-is. Shouldn't be any trouble.

If you want to take full advantage of both 19-pin FP connectors on your new mainboard, have you considered a new 3.5"/5.25" bay USB adaptor panel?

So to put some more details in here, the bracket is not mounted on the chassis back. Why? Well, the chassis has 1x USB3.0 connector on the case, and a cable that was going out in the back of the chassis to connect back to a motherboard USB3.0 type-A plug. A basic way the manufacturer found to provide a USB3.0 chassis port for every motherboard.

So what I did basically was to push the cable back into the chassis, then connected the bracket to the mobo but kept it inside the case ... now the connection is made inside the case and I have one less cable outside the box to deal with.

But I may be interested in checking for an 3.5"/2.5" bay USB panel. Should this motherboard connector be a standard, or more specific to Asus?

Did that with my mobo, among other adaptors, even though mine is a Z370, works great, no problems!

Thank you for your confirmation. That should work also on my Z390 then.

 

[VirtualLarry]

That's a bracket for a standard 19/20-pin USB3.0 / USB3.1 Gen1 header. Should work fine. You can buy those USB3.0 header brackets for $10 from Newegg, too. Was looking at one, just recently.

 

[b4u]

That's a bracket for a standard 19/20-pin USB3.0 / USB3.1 Gen1 header. Should work fine. You can buy those USB3.0 header brackets for $10 from Newegg, too. Was looking at one, just recently.

Thank you. I guess the USB3.1 and Gen1, Gen2 ... are the culprit that throwed me confusion on the subject.

Each one is an evolution and increases the theoretical speed limit, but then the wiring is exactly the same from USB3.0. It should be a matter of "under-the-hood" changes, then.

On the contrary, moving from USB2.0 to USB3.0 changed the wiring itself, but guess that makes sense, as it was a complete redesign of the spec.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Don't mis-understand me. I never said "Gen1" and "Gen2" were equivalent. They are not, and they have different connectors on the motherboard side.

Only that USB3.0 and USB 3.1 Gen1 and USB3.2 Gen1 are all the same.

 

[13Gigatons]

I can hardly wait until USB 4.0 arrives and becomes ubiquitous....maybe less naming confusing?

PS: USB 3.0 is now USB 3.2 Gen 1

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I can hardly wait until USB 4.0 arrives and becomes ubiquitous....maybe less naming confusing?

I wouldn't hold my breath. The USB Forum seems to be experts at naming confusion.

I find it much, much easier to just refer to 5Gbit USB3, 10Gbit USB3 and 20Gbit USB3. With or without a Type C interface. At least that way you know what you're getting.

(Just in case someone from the USB Forum reads this, do feel free to use. I won't ask for royalties or anything)