ASUS Sabertooth Z170 S . . . and . . . AI Suite 3 . . . ?!?

BonzaiDuck

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For what I paid and for what I wanted, this board is as good as it gets for me. There must be 15 fan ports, all capable of running in PWM or DC mode, profiles set in the BIOS. In fact -- that's what I originally did: I set the fan profiles in the BIOS before anything.

Now, folks! We all know about these new features the board makers tout. Now we have "USB 3.1" on top of "USB 3.0". We got this "Native Power Management" or Link Power Management thing. And all the things in that menu -- which I disable, or rather set to default or "auto."

When I was overclocking the 6700K with this board, and just for that -- overclocking to a stable setting -- any BSOD's I got occurred during the first hour, and I think there were only three.

But "other things" can cause BSODs -- later. Of course, being a sort of ASUS fan, and because I want to use all the tools that are "useful" in tweaking the board, I installed ASUS Suite 3.

The program has a marvelous ability to monitor about 20 motherboard temperature sensors, of which only about three are the "tape-on" kind. Whether or not you use the Thermal Armor fan-control features, you can tie any single fan port to quite a few different temperatures. For instance, I have a 40mm Noctua fan blowing intake from the I/O plate across components and past the CPU socket. That's where the big-beef VRMs are, labeled VCORE and VCORE(back). So I can tie that fan's speed to the temperatures of these items. I can do this with any of several sensors and fans connected to the board.

The software is so glitzy and useful -- it has a "thermal assessment" feature that rates your board for being "cool" after a test.

But a lot of people hate AI Suite, and it is, of course, bloatware. The "Atkex . . . com" service runs whether you're running Suite or not, and hogs up to 5% of clock cycles, or otherwise bounces between 3 and 5%.

so in the long, long story, my sig system was doing fine as a kind of Chuck-Yeager-Bell-X1 -- still "in development." Never a problem waking, sleeping, hibernating. My OC profile puts it at 4.7 Ghz, and that's not the source of my trouble.

After I cloned my SSD (SATA) to an NVMe M.2, it took me days to find out that "wake from hibernate" or wake from sleep would cause an 07E BSOD. I finally brought up BlueScreenView, with its discovery of "ASUSFilter.sys" as the culprit. I uninstalled Suite, which also requires an "AI Suite 3 Clean" tool downloadable from ROG.

So now, I'm asking. I have plenty of monitoring programs; it's easy to set and forget the fans in the BIOS. It's nice to have a program notify you that a new BIOS version is available, and nice that that program will flash the BIOS in Windows, execute a restart, and finish the flash without a snag.

But really -- could someone explain "WHY I HAFTA HAVE THIS PROGRAM?" I don't think I NEED this program. The romance is always good while your doin' your tweaks. But if I hadn't kept a cool head in troubleshooting this, it would've devastated my whole week -- maybe led me into a dark forest of confusion.

So -- why do I need this program -- AI Suite3? I've got HWInfo, Afterburner -- everything I need. What am I going to miss?