Review Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 Review: AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Tested

[NTMBK]

An absolutely stellar SKU. When paired with a dGPU, these mobile Zen2 CPUs bring just absolutely monumental performance. I feel they should have even pushed this lineup first over the desktop variants to be honest.

Desktop was just a byproduct of Epyc- they wanted to get those sweet high margin server sales first!

 

[lobz]

Please don't tell me anyone thought CML-H was going to be any different to this?

It's more 14nm, a node they've already pushed to the very limit. To be honest, getting another +100mhz year on year was already impressive, getting any more than that was simply not happening.

CML-H is a housefire, and we all knew and saw it coming.

(Note: I'm not including TVB, but just TB2.0 rated frequencies)

Just you wait for Ryan Shrout's Real World Benchmarks™ slides pulling a Jen/Hsun Huang showing CML-H 10x Renoir.

 

[coercitiv]

True desktop replacements has been utilizing non-mobile CPUs successfully for years. These CML-H i9 CPUs don't make even a tiny bit of sense.

Maybe the sarcasm didn't punch through: it replaces desktops in terms of power usage.

 

[Gideon]

Maybe the sarcasm didn't punch through: it replaces desktops in terms of power usage.

Quite literally too. my 3700x never exceeds 88W at stock (4.0ghz all core) even with PBO the sweetspot for performance is 100w (4.2ghz all core).

 

[tamz_msc]

I'm still bummed that there have been no announcement of any models from OEMs with the Nvidia Super GPUs coupled with Renoir. I think they're going to remain Intel-exclusive with these GPUs for a while, which sucks because it means that AMD will once again get the second-class treatment from OEMs this time.

 

[wanderica]

I'm still bummed that there have been no announcement of any models from OEMs with the Nvidia Super GPUs coupled with Renoir. I think they're going to remain Intel-exclusive with these GPUs for a while, which sucks because it means that AMD will once again get the second-class treatment from OEMs this time.

I find that a little sad too. I wonder what kind of contracts nVidia has with Intel regarding their mobile GPUs. It might have even made perfect sense at the time. We knew zen 2 in mobile was going to be great, but I never expected it to be this good. Even with the best mobile processors on the market, though, there's just no way AMD laptops can out bench a 2080 with a 2060. Maybe the upcoming Supers won't be exclusive?

 

[Gideon]

I'm still bummed that there have been no announcement of any models from OEMs with the Nvidia Super GPUs coupled with Renoir. I think they're going to remain Intel-exclusive with these GPUs for a while, which sucks because it means that AMD will once again get the second-class treatment from OEMs this time.

The exclusivity is due to the Advaned Optimus Tech which I'm pretty sure will be implemented soon on Renoir (unless AMD itself blocks it to remain "smartshift exclusive" which would be dumb IMO). At least Nvidia says "near future":

Another significant upgrade is NVIDIA's Advanced Optimus technology, essentially a controller that chooses either the GPU or integrated graphics for a given app. Before, the GPU wasn't directly connected to the display and had to drop frames onto the integrated graphics framebuffer. Now, it can drive the built-in display directly, improving latency and allowing G-Sync to work at up to 4K 120 Hz. The GPU is also now directly connected to the DisplayPort on your laptop so you'll see improved performance when using VR or an external monitor.

Since all of this new tech is hardware dependent, it will only work on the latest RTX and GTX laptops and not your pre-2020 RTX 2080 Max-Q model, for instance. And for now, it will only work on Intel-powered laptops, but NVIDIA did tell Engadget that it would come to AMD models "in the near future."

EDIT:
This is Anandtechs take on it:

NVIDIA Details Dynamic Boost Tech & Advanced Optimus (G-Sync & Optimus At Last)

www.anandtech.com

 

[csbin]

3950X on the laptop. 75W

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1245698596088905728

 

[Zepp]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUmblCTU4AEyXwX?format=jpg&name=large

man, I wish I could order an AM4 socket laptop chassis with a specified cooling range and put it together with my own sourced components.

 

[uzzi38]

I'm still bummed that there have been no announcement of any models from OEMs with the Nvidia Super GPUs coupled with Renoir.

This could be one such GPU. No clue.

EDIT: Actually, I doubt it. But at the same time, I doubt it's an AMD GPU, so I don't really know what this could be.

 

[lobz]

Maybe the sarcasm didn't punch through: it replaces desktops in terms of power usage.

No, I don't care what you intended to say, I decide what's what around here.

So I decide to say I'm sorry I didn't get that even though I should have, since you rarely post things I don't agree with

 

[lobz]

I find that a little sad too. I wonder what kind of contracts nVidia has with Intel regarding their mobile GPUs. It might have even made perfect sense at the time. We knew zen 2 in mobile was going to be great, but I never expected it to be this good. Even with the best mobile processors on the market, though, there's just no way AMD laptops can out bench a 2080 with a 2060. Maybe the upcoming Supers won't be exclusive?

There's also no way they would be even remotely in the same price category. Let's wait and see

 

[AnandThenMan]

They only last 10 seconds, too. 56 seconds @ 135W? Please. Intel wants to win some benchmarks.

It will work to some extent, Intel knows this.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Just you wait for Ryan Shrout's Real World Benchmarks™ slides pulling a Jen/Hsun Huang showing CML-H 10x Renoir.

Can't wait for Ryan to do some live VLC gaming demos.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Someone explain to me why so many of these reviews were a 35 watt part against 90 watt. Why stop there compare the 4900H to a 384 core server since apples to apples went out the window.

 

[thesmokingman]

Someone explain to me why so many of these reviews were a 35 watt part against 90 watt. Why stop there compare the 4900H to a 384 core server since apples to apples went out the window.

Oh so its not fair pit the 35 watt part to the 90 watt parts you're saying? Waaah waaah?

 

[uzzi38]

I find it funny that the cons is having no Thunderbolt 3. what do you expect? its a AMD CPU. you can't expect TB3 in a AMD laptop/device.

Thinkpad T14 says hi.

Or, well, will in a few months.

 

[uzzi38]

Extremely extensive testing done on the entire Renoir lineup. Well worth the read.

 

[mopardude87]

Maybe the sarcasm didn't punch through: it replaces desktops in terms of power usage.

Yeah for a htpc or something it could even work. Would be all over even a desktop t series chip again just for htpc to replace i3 2100/upcoming 2500k. I had a bit of fun with a i5 8400t. Passively cooled under a Tisis cooler and staying under 60cel even with prime95. Gamed better then a 4670.

 

[Markfw]

Extremely extensive testing done on the entire Renoir lineup. Well worth the read.

I don't read chinese

 

[uzzi38]

I don't read chinese

Er, neither do I, moon runes are certainly not my speciality either... I just tend to forget not everyone uses Chrome.

This should probably work I think?

 

[mopardude87]

I don't read chinese

LOL first try trying to open up a page in a foreign language and finding out Opera does not do it by default. I still prefer this over Chrome, its just faster ha.

 

[Saylick]

Extremely extensive testing done on the entire Renoir lineup. Well worth the read.

Would never have imagined that one day I'd be reading a super in-depth review by a user named "Lone Phoenix Warrior".

 

[Markfw]

I use firefox. But I learned something. I copied the link location and opened up chrome, and it asked me if I want it translated. Cool !

 

[NostaSeronx]

Extremely extensive testing done on the entire Renoir lineup. Well worth the read.

Probably, the most interesting thing.