ASUS releases EAX1800 XT

[sisq0kidd]

Ooo, another thread that's going places.

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Forget the mod position Rollo, I have bigger plans for you.

Rollo for President!

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Ooo, another thread that's going places.

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Post Corrected.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
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Thats going in my sig

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Ooo, another thread that's going places.

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Post Corrected.

From a mature, well respected member like you dingo, that cuts.......

Nah.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: nature1

Originally posted by: Rollo
><snip><

Does this guy crap on every thread?

Yes, when the thread is about a graphics card not made by invidia.

Trolling again Munky?

Oh, you mean like this?

Originally posted by: Rollo
LOL if the 25Mhz OC is "what's to come", I'm sure nVidia is sleeping soundly.

or this?

Well I HAVE to admit, when it only takes a 20# monster hsf like that to get it stable at 25MHz over, with window airconditioners they may see 30MHz!

What useful contribution have you made to this thread?

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Ooo, another thread that's going places.

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Post Corrected.

From a mature, well respected member like you dingo, that cuts.......

Nah.

Truth hurts, doesnt it? And yeah thanks for that insult.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Rollo


Gee Ackmed, others seem to agree with me that external power and the 20# HSF for 25 lousy MHz is pretty bad.

Are Goregrinder, Elfear, and XCobra trolling too? Or just me because you stated you don't like me and want me gone? :roll:

The FACT of the matter is that humongous HSF and an external psu are a joke to get a 3% OC.

It's one thing if they went to those wacky extremes to enable further OCing. It's quite another if they HAD to do that to OC 25MHz.

BTW Ackmed, as much as you love these cards, I'm sort of shocked you don't own one? If I loved the X1800XT as much as you, you can bet one would be in my box?

Or do you just support ATI with posts, not your money? I think what is in a person's box is a pretty good indication of what they recommend?

I know you know about it, because you trolled the thread about ATi giving the go ahead for a 25Mhz clock increase on both the core, and memory. Asus is just going with it.

Its not a 20 pound cooler, you are just over exaggerating again to further your agenda.

The FACT of the matter is that it is Asus' choice on what they want to cool it with.

They dont have to use that cooler to get 25Mhz more overclocking. Even implying that is ignorant.

Who says I love the X1800XT? I love few things in life, and PC hardware isnt one of them.

I have a GTX, because at the time it was the best card out. I no longer think that, and am debating on adding another, or getting a X1800XT.

I find your post pretty ironic, because your GTX's are stock 430/1200. I hope you are not bitter because you paid about $1300 for stock GTX's.

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Thats pretty ignorant thinking. Just because Asus doesnt overclock it a lot, doesnt mean it cant. My BFG is only 30Mhz above the stock core, but I clocked it up another 30Mhz.

Well I HAVE to admit, when it only takes a 20# monster hsf like that to get it stable at 25MHz over, with window airconditioners they may see 30MHz!

5150, where is teh link! LOL

This is the post I had a problem with. This is trolling, and TRYING to derail yet another ATi thread. It doesnt take a 20 pound heatsink to get 25Mhz over, you did nothing to add to this thread, and only subtacted from it. By yet again trolling another ATi thread. Funny how you dont do that at B3D or Hard, where they dont put up with it.

 

[compgeek89]

Well, I for one am quite unimpressed.

The x1800 XT only has 16 pipes, so it needs OCed 3/2 as much as a GTX to get the same speed boost.

25mhz is the same speed boost a GTX would get from 16mhz

And considering they OCed the GTX by 56mhz, I expect a 700mhz XT core to call it the "ASUS top"

 

[Paratus]

And yet the 16pipe XT beats the 24pipe GTX & hangs in there with the 512.......

Pipes aren't everything, neither is mhz. Just ask Intel.


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[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: Paratus
And yet the 16pipe XT beats the 24pipe GTX & hangs in there with the 512.......

Pipes aren't everything, neither is mhz. Just ask Intel.


posted via Palm LifeDrive

:Q

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Paratus
And yet the 16pipe XT beats the 24pipe GTX & hangs in there with the 512.......
posted via Palm LifeDrive

By "hanging in there" do you mean how it's hanging on to dear life after the beating it took from the stock 512MB 7800GTX?

In any case I don't know why ASUS created such a thick cooler that doesn't even have DHES? If it's similar to the Arctic Coolers than shouldn't they have used DHES? Just my $0.02 . . .

As for clocking it "only" 25 Mhz higher over the stock, yeah not much but it's still technically "the TOP X1800XT" card out there as of now so the name does have merit . . .

And what's with external power? They only used that for their EN7800GT Dual cards . . . I doubt an X1800XT, even when overclocked draws as much power as a dual 7800GT would . . .

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Paratus
And yet the 16pipe XT beats the 24pipe GTX & hangs in there with the 512.......
posted via Palm LifeDrive

By "hanging in there" do you mean how it's hanging on to dear life after the beating it took from the stock 512MB 7800GTX?

In any case I don't know why ASUS created such a thick cooler that doesn't even have DHES? If it's similar to the Arctic Coolers than shouldn't they have used DHES? Just my $0.02 . . .

As for clocking it "only" 25 Mhz higher over the stock, yeah not much but it's still technically "the TOP X1800XT" card out there as of now so the name does have merit . . .

And what's with external power? They only used that for their EN7800GT Dual cards . . . I doubt an X1800XT, even when overclocked draws as much power as a dual 7800GT would . . .

Don't get me wrong the 512 is faster than the XT but not by all that much with 4X/8X enabled. Especially not with the 30% lead in fillrate, 20% lead in bandwith it has over the XT, much less the 20% increase in price.


As to heatsink. I don't know what they were thinking. Dual slot heat sinks should blow out period.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Paratus
Don't get me wrong the 512 is faster than the XT but not by all that much with 4X/8X enabled. Especially not with the 30% lead in fillrate, 20% lead in bandwith it has over the XT, much less the 20% increase in price.

The price will drop soon enough . . .

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Paratus
Don't get me wrong the 512 is faster than the XT but not by all that much with 4X/8X enabled. Especially not with the 30% lead in fillrate, 20% lead in bandwith it has over the XT, much less the 20% increase in price.

The price will drop soon enough . . .

As will that of the XT neither have leveled out in price yet

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: fierydemise
As will that of the XT neither have leveled out in price yet

Yes that's true but my point is when prices level out, the GTX won't be quite that more expensive than an X1800XT and hence will be worth the extra performance it has over the X1800XT . . .

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: fierydemise
As will that of the XT neither have leveled out in price yet

Yes that's true but my point is when prices level out, the GTX won't be quite that more expensive than an X1800XT and hence will be worth the extra performance it has over the X1800XT . . .

I figure then when prices do eventually level out the XT will be about the same maybe a bit more expensive then the 256MB GTX ($500) and the 512 MB GTX will be somewhere between $550 and $600, once prices level out I think all 3 cards will line up well based on price/performance ratio.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Paratus

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: Paratus
And yet the 16pipe XT beats the 24pipe GTX & hangs in there with the 512.......
posted via Palm LifeDrive

By "hanging in there" do you mean how it's hanging on to dear life after the beating it took from the stock 512MB 7800GTX?

In any case I don't know why ASUS created such a thick cooler that doesn't even have DHES? If it's similar to the Arctic Coolers than shouldn't they have used DHES? Just my $0.02 . . .

As for clocking it "only" 25 Mhz higher over the stock, yeah not much but it's still technically "the TOP X1800XT" card out there as of now so the name does have merit . . .

And what's with external power? They only used that for their EN7800GT Dual cards . . . I doubt an X1800XT, even when overclocked draws as much power as a dual 7800GT would . . .

Don't get me wrong the 512 is faster than the XT but not by all that much with 4X/8X enabled. Especially not with the 30% lead in fillrate, 20% lead in bandwith it has over the XT, much less the 20% increase in price.


As to heatsink. I don't know what they were thinking. Dual slot heat sinks should blow out period.

Perfomance is quite arguable, as the 512GTX is (note this is not sarcasm nor a joke) 2 times faster than the X1800XT in Chronical of riddick, black and white2, strategy games like warhammer dawn of war, but also it dominates the card in EVERY game. According to xbitlabs, it has a lower power usage than the X1800XT, its more quiet and plus its avg 30% faster than the XT according to xbitlabs which tested using about 20 games or so. And thats with 16x12, 4xaa, 8xaf. Its a card that can handle almost ANY game on that setting.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I find your post pretty ironic, because your GTX's are stock 430/1200. I hope you are not bitter because you paid about $1300 for stock GTX's.

No way Ackmed! I still have the second fastest gaming rig on the planet six months later, and play my games like I had hoped to when I bought the stuff.

Who could be angry about that?

By yet again trolling another ATi thread. Funny how you dont do that at B3D or Hard, where they dont put up with it.

Heh the mods at Hard told me in no uncertain terms they have no problem with me being contentious, because I don't break their rules. Won't post what they think of your antics, Ackmed! (unlike you, I follow the rules here and don't post personal attacks!)


Your problem is that you don't realize it's OK to post negatives about a video card company 24/7, 365 days a year. That's what the video forum is for, to post news and opinions of video hardware.

This is NOT "trolling", this is not "baiting"- the only way it could be is if you happened to be employed by the company in question and I specifically questioned your work.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Paratus
[As to heatsink. I don't know what they were thinking. Dual slot heat sinks should blow out period.

Hmmmm. According to HardOCPs numbers the 512GTX is a cooler card at most points on the card than the XT?

Perhaps nVidia's engineers know something you and ATI don't as they're reaching almost as high of speed on thicker silicon ?

If it had a whining dustbuster like another card currently out, cough XT cough, you guys would be all over it for noise.

As it's cooler and much quieter than it's competition, all you're left with is, "I am no engineer, but I think the HSF that works BEST should be different!

I will laugh if AC can't do a hsf for this because their products cant match stock!

 

[Goi]

The card seems to be put together at the last minute. I don't like the cable running from the external power adaptor to the molex connector. Couldn't they have routed it directly to the card and abolished the connector altogether? That seems like a more elegant solution, though it would probably require a new PCB revision.

Also, the price will likely put this in direct competition with the 7800GTX 512MB, which would probably trash it handily.

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Paratus
[As to heatsink. I don't know what they were thinking. Dual slot heat sinks should blow out period.

Hmmmm. According to HardOCPs numbers the 512GTX is a cooler card at most points on the card than the XT?

Perhaps nVidia's engineers know something you and ATI don't as they're reaching almost as high of speed on thicker silicon ?

If it had a whining dustbuster like another card currently out, cough XT cough, you guys would be all over it for noise.

As it's cooler and much quieter than it's competition, all you're left with is, "I am no engineer, but I think the HSF that works BEST should be different!

I will laugh if AC can't do a hsf for this because their products cant match stock!

Know something I don't? Hardly

It's all a design trade off and the GTX is very good from the cards perspective. It's quiet and cools well but comes at the thermal expense of the rest of system as half the heat is dumped into the case. It is better than the 6800 Ultra or even this Asus cooler but its not any better (from a thermal perspective) than the standard X1800XT cooler.

Artic silencers I think are still the best. Large quiet fan (like the GTX) cools well and exhausts out the case. I'm still not sure what Asus was thinking here. They obviate the need for an expensive PSU but dump all the heat into the case requiring a more expensive well ventilated case. Didn't they use the AS cooler on their GTX TOP model?

BTW I checked out the original "Dust Buster" and the in-out desing of the Flow FX was a pretty good idea - just poorly implemented that made the gamers angry!

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: nature1
Does this guy crap on every thread? or is it just me?

It's just you. I tell the truth about video cards as I see it in every thread.

Right because obviously the card MUST be super hot with its 25hz overclock... I mean they couldnt have put a cooler on there to make it an enthuisiast card or anything. They put a monster cooler on there because the 25hz really is the straw that crushed that camels back.

 

[CrystalBay]

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