Asus Rampage 3 Extreme Headache

[Sickamore]

I cant stand the heat on this motherboard i am going to return this thing back. I am going to get the msi big bang x power. Overpriced board not worth it. The features are awesome but its not worth the heat. Why is the heatsink on this thing so hot. Can someone tell me about the Big Bang Xpower.

 

[lopri]

Well, X58 tends to get hot. Does the R3E come with some sort of optional fan for the chipset cooling? Have you tried it?

 

[Sickamore]

Yeah placed the optional heatsink onto the northbridge. Its down to about 44 degrees Northbridge and 44 Degrees Southbridge. I really dont mind the heat. What i also read is that the optional northbridge will come into contact with my noctua dh-14 that i just bought. I have to remove it in other for me to place the heatsink on the motherboard. What i am worried about if i install the normal heatsink then the heat will ramp up. Also When i buy my graphics card i am worried about the northbridge hitting high temperature from my graphics card. Wheres the advils

 

[lopri]

Well.. from this page:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3820/asus-evga-gigabyte-msi-four-flagship-motherboards-reviewed/2

On-board cooling isn’t that great in our opinion – IOH idle temps with ASUS’s heatsink and fan combo are up in the 60s at stock voltages (high for a board without NF200s). Overclock higher and you will hit 70 Celsius plus quite easily in a case. Ordinarily we are not overly concerned about temps although in this instance high temperatures on the IOH can be a hindrance because the QPI bus starts to throttle when temps go too high. This also limits the board’s stability at high BCLK unless you provide copious amounts of additional airflow across the heatsink assembly. The whole situation is not helped by ASUS’s choice of thermal interface material; it’s thick yellow bubble gum type stuff. A simple change out of TIM on the IOH to Artic Silver Ceramique lowered the IOH idle/load temps by seven Celsius and encouraged the board to POST past 215 BCLK. We’ve passed our findings on to ASUS and hope they update future boards from the factory.

I think you could try re-applying TIM if you don't mind getting messy. But even after that I would feel uncomfortable leaving the NB and mosfets without some active airflow. And yes, the video card will get hotter and will heat up the chipset even more in return, so it's not a good proposition for long term. Maybe find a different solution for chipset cooling? I know Antec has something called "Spot Cool", a fan with a flexible arm. I don't know how well it works but just an idea.

 

[Sickamore]

So right now i have no choice but to go for the h70 corsair. Because the Noctua wont fit with the optional heatsink cooler on the northbridge.

 

[Damn Dirty Ape]

So right now i have no choice but to go for the h70 corsair. Because the Noctua wont fit with the optional heatsink cooler on the northbridge.

What I have now as well on mine - things around the socket are currently pretty toasty w/ no fan.

 

[Sickamore]

I want to go for the msi big bang xpower but it lacks alot of features. I am already addictive to the bios of the rampage. How can i cool down the north bridge.

 

[Rubycon]

Don't worry about it - those temps are very low IME.

When they start approaching 100C I would start to worry.

I put the fan on mine when I strapped on the H70 because it fit. Idle temps dropped 30C! (at 200BCLK, 115 PCI-E, stock IOH/ICH volts!)

Previously with a Venomous-X cooler the included chipset fan would NOT fit.

If you think the REXIII runs hot you don't want to come near a dual NF200 board like the P6T7 or Classified 762. They will make you cry.

 

[Sickamore]

I know hyperthreading racks up alot of heat. I was archiving a 3 gig file in winrar and my proccessor would hit 93 degrees easy. Is this normal. I tried prime 95 it stayed stable all the way with 83 degrees on the stock fan it came with. Winrar it goes over the top. I am just prepping for extreme overclock just need to be aware of heat temp on this proccessor on this board. Dont like intel never used it. Just need a change.

 

[Rubycon]

No that's far from normal. The stock cooler is adequate for (stock) speeds. Don't consider anything outside of short term (testing) overclocking with the stock cooler! If you're using a high performing cooler and seeing 90C+ temps then your TIM is missing or you have a very poor mount.

Win RAR performance is actually better with HT disabled!

 

[Sickamore]

Do you know any cooling heatsink that i can place on the cpu without stressing about removing optional heatsink on the northbridge. Asus what were yu thinking.

 

[Mark_K]

So right now i have no choice but to go for the h70 corsair. Because the Noctua wont fit with the optional heatsink cooler on the northbridge.

I am interested in the H70 also. Let us know how it works out for you.

 

[Rubycon]

Do you know any cooling heatsink that i can place on the cpu without stressing about removing optional heatsink on the northbridge. Asus what were yu thinking.

The optional (hence optional! ) chipset cooler/fan is not required. You can use any (cpu) cooler you want. The chipset run warmer, yes. It will not be damaged nor run outside of acceptable range. If it is overheating your board is malfunctioning (bad mount / TIM) OR your case has very poor ventilation and / or your operating area has a very high ambient temperature. (Check the motherboard temperature reading - it's in the BIOS and also displayed in the PC Probe II application if you have it installed / running.)

 

[Rifter]

The optional (hence optional! ) chipset cooler/fan is not required. You can use any (cpu) cooler you want. The chipset run warmer, yes. It will not be damaged nor run outside of acceptable range. If it is overheating your board is malfunctioning (bad mount / TIM) OR your case has very poor ventilation and / or your operating area has a very high ambient temperature. (Check the motherboard temperature reading - it's in the BIOS and also displayed in the PC Probe II application if you have it installed / running.)

I agree with this, as long as its within specs thermal wise you are good to go.

There are alot of X58 boards out there with fairly small heatsinks on the chipset that are doing just fine. Sure they get hot, but they are designed to take the heat. My ASUS P6X58D-E doesnt have anything special on the x58 chip, just a average sized heatsink and its doing ok, it hits 70c stress testing but never goes above 60c under normal use gaming or encoding. Idles in the 40's. Considering its running a 200 Bclock i think thats pretty good for stock cooling, and well within thermal specs.

Unless you are trying for 220+ Bclock speeds Just make sure your case has some airflow and you will be ok.

 

[Rifter]

Well.. from this page:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3820/asus-evga-gigabyte-msi-four-flagship-motherboards-reviewed/2



I think you could try re-applying TIM if you don't mind getting messy. But even after that I would feel uncomfortable leaving the NB and mosfets without some active airflow. And yes, the video card will get hotter and will heat up the chipset even more in return, so it's not a good proposition for long term. Maybe find a different solution for chipset cooling? I know Antec has something called "Spot Cool", a fan with a flexible arm. I don't know how well it works but just an idea.

Re applying the TIM is a great idea, i have not done it to my current board but have done it before to a few boards before and noticed differences from 5-10c in most cases, the same as mentioned in the article quoted.

 

[Sickamore]

What is tim.

 

[crucibelle]

Thermal Interface Material, or "thermal grease" as it is often called.

 

[Rubycon]

Thermal Interface Material.

It's the goop, grease, etc. that is applied between the chipset die and the cooler surface itself. Most OEMs use pads which are easy to apply on the assembly line but generally offer lackluster performance compared to better products such as Arctic Silver, Shin-Etsu, etc.

 

[lopri]

You could mod the whole thing, too. Like this.



http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ii-extreme-lga1366-motherboard-preview-2.html

 

[Sickamore]

I am going to rma this board and get the asus rampage formula. I really don't mind the board what i am worried about is the heat thats going to come from my graphics card when i buy it. How hot that north bridge will get. Thats bothering me. i need to use the noctua d14 on my board. I dont want to go for the h70. Can someone help me get a board around 300 - 400 atleast thats going to be stable.

 

[lopri]

IMO you might be better off saving money and go with something more affordable and known quality. Such as ASUS P6X58D series ($250), Sabertooth ($200), or Gigabyte UD3 ($200), etc. I understand that you want the best, but to be frank there is no difference between those ~$400 boards and ~$250 boards under air cooling. The review I linked earlier make that point clear. These super-duper boards usually only differ on the CPU power delivery which is more geared toward hardcore OC (read: sub-zero) community and 3DMark jockeys (read: gazillion NF200 chips for more PCIe lanes).

For air-cooling it doesn't make one bit of difference and $200 boards are no more/less stable than $400 boards, imo. Plenty of folks enjoy 4.0 GHz+ with $200~$250 X58 boards.

 

[Rubycon]

There is nothing unstable about the board. Even with the chipset operating at 100C it will be stable. It throttles beyond that which will cause stuttering, etc. Of course like pain (nail in your foot, for example) that is a warning to abate your serious lackluster of cooling.

 

[Sickamore]

Ruby should i keep the RE3. I am i love with it. Because i dont know what cooling system to go for. I want a motherboard for overclocking, needs to run two pci express lanes at 16x. I plan and running three graphics card on this rig. I need to be ready for 2011. I dont want anything holding me back.

 

[Rubycon]

Yes it's a fine board. It will not run three cards at 16X each though.

Fear not, testing proves even at 4X you never see the difference in your games!

 

[Sickamore]

Yeah i know its going to run 16x+8x+8x with three cards. What worries me is the heatsink. Also ruby with the msi big bang xpower. What speed will it run on two cards. Also do you think its worth getting the new rampage formula. How do i turn off hyperthreading on my computer.