Asus P5B-E or P5B Deluxe

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: tcG

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

ill stick with the 20 other guides i have seen and pass that advice along, you can have your own opinion as well.

20 other P5B-Deluxe guides... where?

This is specific to this board.

doesnt matter. he does say briefly in the beginning "As with all overclocking, user participation and thought is still required." without getting into any detail. let's face it, this guide is geared towards noobies and yet he mentiones NOTHIGN about monitoring temps and even attempting to use lower voltages when possible.

if you are providing a guide to overclocking a board, at least mention those variables in a somewhat specific manner.

second - he states to increase the NB to the max. i have read way more than enough posts that point out overheating NB chipsets ON THIS BOARD SPECIFICALLY and poor heatsink application from the factory. hitting the highest voltage asap is not a good across the baord recommendation.

third - while he does not draw his red lines to the cpu vcore or memory voltage, he should not have them at 1.5 & 2.25v respectively. since he is presenting himself as an authority, it is very likely that some new participants to overclocking will think that his numbers are good and try to emulate them. 1.5v even on a board with vdroop is plenty to get that chip super hot with stock cooling or even aftermarket cooling, especially if not applied well. second, a lot of memory is not rated that high.

yet he makes no effort to explain these other numbers - merely saying this is not set it and forget it. but goes into zero explanation about temps, cooling, voltages etc.. or link to them. nor talks about the NB cooling that comes stock may be inadequate for his recommended voltage level.

this guide is irresponsible and should be taken with a grain of salt by anybody new enough to overclocking that cant figure out a bios.

 

[tcG]

Your argument would be fine provided that the people likely reading that guide are indeed inexperienced... which probably won't be the case at XTREMESYSTEMS.ORG; notice, it's not called lightoverclockedcomputers.org.

 

[idiotekniQues]

so what?

look at society nowadays. everybody wants to be extreme. it's just a name, and the internet is not organized so that people cant embelish website names to get attention, and users know that.

why dont you try xtreme knitting? http://www.xtreme-knitting.com/blog/

people can just google overclocking the p5b and thatt will come up. you dont have to google CRAZY INSANE OVERCLOCKING to find it.

i dont see your point about the name. the guide has what i consider an irresponsible element to it.

we can agree to disagree.

 

[tcG]

Ehhh... I shouldn't have added the part about "lightoverclockedcomputers.org" since it gave the impression that I was talking about the name of the website. Names aside, XS has one of the largest and most respected overclocking communities on the internet.

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: tcG
Ehhh... I shouldn't have added the part about "lightoverclockedcomputers.org" since it gave the impression that I was talking about the name of the website. Names aside, XS has one of the largest and most respected overclocking communities on the internet.

hey, im not talking smack about the whole community. ive been reading many threads there and it has great info. i just felt personally that one guide was irresponsible in some ways. and its just my opinion and who the heck am i anyway? but in no way was i judging, or think that i am capable of juding an entire community

but i feel the way i feel about that guide 😀

 

[Skott]

Didnt Gary say that the P5B-D overclocked a little bit higher than the E version but the E version was a little bit more stable? Or something along those lines. Thats how I understood it anyway.

 

[tcG]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: tcG
Ehhh... I shouldn't have added the part about "lightoverclockedcomputers.org" since it gave the impression that I was talking about the name of the website. Names aside, XS has one of the largest and most respected overclocking communities on the internet.

hey, im not talking smack about the whole community. ive been reading many threads there and it has great info. i just felt personally that one guide was irresponsible in some ways. and its just my opinion and who the heck am i anyway? but in no way was i judging, or think that i am capable of juding an entire community

but i feel the way i feel about that guide 😀

Fair enough. 😎

Skott,

How could one be more stable, and the other overclock higher? I've always thought that when somebody said a board could overclock well, stability was a given.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: bkiserx7
gettin a lil off topic, are we not guys. just tryin to determine which board i want to invest 150+ in and not change for a couple years. from there i may be coming back with other questions.

Get the P5B Deluxe.

You have stated your intentions for use of the motherboard, & i explained the differences.

I thought you'd draw your own conclusion easily, but i see you haven't, so i'm gonna lay out plainly:

You want to do some heavy overclocking.
P5B-E is simply not ideal for that due to its lack of vdimm & motherboard voltage options.

So in short, get the P5B Deluxe 😉
(Or the Commando, if you can find one with a decent price.)

 

[tcG]

Commando is hands down the best overclocking motherboard out right now. With the right RAM I've seen an average of over 550FSB with these monsters... $210 is a steal, if you can find it... DFI's new P965 Infinity is going to trump everything in the budget range right now. Goodbye P5B-Deluxe (which is still an awesome board).

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: tcG
Commando is hands down the best overclocking motherboard out right now. With the right RAM I've seen an average of over 550FSB with these monsters... $210 is a steal, if you can find it... DFI's new P965 Infinity is going to trump everything in the budget range right now. Goodbye P5B-Deluxe (which is still an awesome board).

Highly unlikely.

DFI always tends to make their motherboards a complicated PITA to OC, which is why the P5B is easy to recommend.

 

[tcG]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: tcG
Commando is hands down the best overclocking motherboard out right now. With the right RAM I've seen an average of over 550FSB with these monsters... $210 is a steal, if you can find it... DFI's new P965 Infinity is going to trump everything in the budget range right now. Goodbye P5B-Deluxe (which is still an awesome board).

Highly unlikely.

DFI always tends to make their motherboards a complicated PITA to OC, which is why the P5B is easy to recommend.

http://csd.dficlub.org/pgpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=460&highlight=

Trumps the P5B-Deluxe in performance...

...whether this particular sample happens to be cherrypicked or not, 540FSB on a budget board is certainly nothing to sneeze at.

 

[n7]

P5Bs have hit well over 550+.

And since when did $210 become a budget board 😕:laugh:

I'm not saying there won't be a market for that DFI; there surely will be & should be.

 

[idiotekniQues]

my p5b-d is about ready to get on a fed ex truck for delivery. i hope it runs as nice as my p5n-e sli without any of the trouble setting up 😀

 

[tcG]

Originally posted by: n7
P5Bs have hit well over 550+.

And since when did $210 become a budget board 😕:laugh:

I'm not saying there won't be a market for that DFI; there surely will be & should be.

$210? Where did you get that figure?

P965 DFI Infinity outperforms the P5B-D, so if they both overclock to around the same level, the choice is obvious.

 

[bkiserx7]

How bout the new kid on the block, seems the AB9 QuadGT is going to sweep in and steal some glory AB9 QuadGT

 

[miniMUNCH]

I'm buying a P5B-deluxe later this week.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: tcG

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: tcG
Ehhh... I shouldn't have added the part about "lightoverclockedcomputers.org" since it gave the impression that I was talking about the name of the website. Names aside, XS has one of the largest and most respected overclocking communities on the internet.

hey, im not talking smack about the whole community. ive been reading many threads there and it has great info. i just felt personally that one guide was irresponsible in some ways. and its just my opinion and who the heck am i anyway? but in no way was i judging, or think that i am capable of juding an entire community

but i feel the way i feel about that guide 😀

Fair enough. 😎

Skott,

How could one be more stable, and the other overclock higher? I've always thought that when somebody said a board could overclock well, stability was a given.

Sorry about the late reply. Took a few days off from reading the forums. Just because something overclocks well doesnt mean stability is a given. Take the DS3 for example. Great overclocker but many dont consider it as stable as the P5B-D. The P5B-E is supposed to be a C2 version (2nd revision)to the P5B-D. A bit more stable overall but from what I hear on average it doesnt quite overclock as high as the P5B-D. The overclock differences isnt huge. Its rather small but its still there. Thats what I have read anyway.

 

[bkiserx7]

Anybody want my P5W DH Deluxe? I have been tryin to sell it in the FS Forums but no one seems to be hittin on it. All I am wanting for it is 200 shipped anywhere in continental US. It still has everything as it came new and is in perfect working order.