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Asus P4533-V, Abit BG7, or Epox 4G4A

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88CRXHybrid

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I am building a new system and have narrowed everything down to 1.6a with either a Asus P4533-V, Abit BG7, or Epox 4G4A mother board. I will be o/c ing (hopefully to 175fsb). Which board will be better and why?
 
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175 FSB?? I would forget that idea. The Epox and Abit boards have more mempry speed options than the Asus, and cost less. People are having very good luck with the 4G4A. It is a real bargain for ~ $100 @ Mwave.com.
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
Welcome to the forums!

175 FSB?? I would forget that idea. The Epox and Abit boards have more mempry speed options than the Asus, and cost less. People are having very good luck with the 4G4A. It is a real bargain for ~ $100 @ Mwave.com.
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I agree.....forget 175 FSB........

you would be real lucky to hit that number with air cooling. I know some people have hit it but you need a good CPU for that (i should say a "Platinum" 1.6a)
 
4G4A

I recommend reading the threads, they have a lot of info. I'm not sure why people had problems with 4G4A at the begining, but now it seems to be the best. I have a 4G4A+ @150 FSB.
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
Welcome to the forums!

175 FSB?? I would forget that idea. The Epox and Abit boards have more mempry speed options than the Asus, and cost less. People are having very good luck with the 4G4A. It is a real bargain for ~ $100 @ Mwave.com.
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Actually they don't have more memory speed options than the Asus. All 3 boards have the same memory dividers available. Unless you're talking about something else? Personally I'd still be wary of the Epox board since some people have had luck with it and other's haven't. I'm not aware of any revisions made by Epox yet so it's still the same board. I may be a bit biased since my last two boards were Epox (8KHA+ and 8K3a+) and both had issues.
 
From what I have seen, the ASUS has 3:4 below 133 FSB and 4:5 above 133 FSB. It does not have 3:4 above 132 FSB. The Epox and ABit both support 4:5 AND 3:4 above 133 FSB. I have seen a lot of happy people here with the 4G4A. My 4BDA2+ rocks.
I may be a bit biased since my last two boards were Epox (8KHA+ and 8K3a+) and both had issues
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Of course they did. They were VIA based boards. 😉
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
From what I have seen, the ASUS has 3:4 below 133 FSB and 4:5 above 133 FSB. It does not have 3:4 above 132 FSB. The Epox and ABit both support 4:5 AND 3:4 above 133 FSB. I have seen a lot of happy people here with the 4G4A. My 4BDA2+ rocks.
I may be a bit biased since my last two boards were Epox (8KHA+ and 8K3a+) and both had issues
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Of course they did. They were VIA based boards. 😉
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While I can't comment on the 4G4A+ since I don't own one, the BG7 only supports 3:4 up to 150 fsb via SPD from my own tests. Officially it doesn't list 3:4 after 132 fsb either though. The Asus can be locked at 3:4 with any fsb provided you know how to do the dip switch trick.
 
The Asus can be locked at 3:4 with any fsb provided you know how to do the dip switch trick.
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You mean the hack you use on the P4B266? Does that work on the P4B533-V? No one has figured out how to do it on a P4B533-E yet. If you do that hack, it stops working if you enter the bios.

I'd personally rather have a board where it just works without some funky trick (for less $$ too).
 
I am definitely going to get the 4G4A+ but would like some advice on some RAM for the 4G4A+

Choices are:

Corsair 256Mb XMS2400 cas2 = £81.66
Corsair 256Mb XMS2700 cas2 = £72.38
Corsair 512Mb XMS2700 cas2 = £129.95
Corsair 256Mb XMS3000 cas2 = £86.95
Corsair 512Mb XMS3000 cas2 = £157.92
Corsair 256Mb XMS3200 = £86.95
Corsair 512Mb XMS3200 = £157.57

Crucial 256Mb PC2700 cas2.5 = £62.99

Kingston 256Mb PC2700 cas2.5 = £63.44

Kingmax 256Mb PC2400 = £41.13
Kingmax 256Mb PC2700 = £49.35
Kingmax 256Mb PC3200 = £72.50

OCZ 256Mb PC2400 = £51.70
OCZ 256Mb PC3000 = £63.45
OCZ 256Mb PC3200 = £70.50

what do you think is the best??
the most overclockable but considering the price as UK aint that cheap!!!
 
Go with the Epox. I just ordered it to replace this sucky Asus board with a defective USB.

I hope to be hitting at leat 275 fsb easily.
 
I had the same question about memory as I am buying a AUSU P4B533-V next week and this is the best article I found.

Link: PC3000 Memory Comparison

I also found this article about Kingmax vs. OCZ, which was interesting, but after reading the above article I am nolonger considering either one of these.

Link: KingMax PC2700 vs. OCZ PC3000

I plan to buy Corsair CMX 256A-2700C2PT Cas 2.0. It has a Platinum heat spreader. It is only a couple more dollars than the standard Aluminum heat speader. But I still can not find any tests showing that it really works better, even though it should. Price is $83 at Spartan Technologies, Inc

I hope this helps.
 
is someone know the vCore, vDIMM, vIO voltages ranges for the Asus P4B533-V/Abit BG7/EPoX 4G4A+/VIA P4PB 400 (or P4PB 333)? thanks.
 
P4B533-V

VCore Voltage +3.3V, +5V, +12V

CPU VCore ranges
Willamette 1.750V - 1.950V
Northwood 1.500V - 1.800V

CPU/Memory Frequency Ratio
1:1 & (3:4 up to a 132 FSB and 4:5 above 132 FSB)

DDR Voltage 2.9V. 2.7V, and 2.6V

APG VDDQ Voltage 1.7V, 1.6V, 1.5V



 
I was set on getting the 4G4A from MWave, but with the memory problems people are having with the 4G4A/+, I'm now somewhat undecided between it and the Abit BG7. I've already ordered a stick of Corsair XMS PC2700 CAS2 from googlegear.
 
Originally posted by: CrazySaint
I was set on getting the 4G4A from MWave, but with the memory problems people are having with the 4G4A/+, I'm now somewhat undecided between it and the Abit BG7. I've already ordered a stick of Corsair XMS PC2700 CAS2 from googlegear.
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personally for an overclocking purpose & for a better stability i think i'll take the Abit BG7 or the new upcoming Asus P4B533-V.

(nevertheless the EPoX remains a good mb with many features)
 
Originally posted by: Gregor1C
P4B533-V

VCore Voltage +3.3V, +5V, +12V

CPU VCore ranges
Willamette 1.750V - 1.950V
Northwood 1.500V - 1.800V

CPU/Memory Frequency Ratio
1:1 & (3:4 up to a 132 FSB and 4:5 above 132 FSB)

DDR Voltage 2.9V. 2.7V, and 2.6V

APG VDDQ Voltage 1.7V, 1.6V, 1.5V
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thanks for the info 😎
 
The Epox sounds better IMHO - with all the features and fairly high performance.

From what I know...

Some pros about this board are :

1. RAID
2. 3:4 & 4:5 ratios above 132 FSB
3. No need for special P4 power connector
4. Great performance

Some cons about this board are :

1. Integrated "crap" (some may not like the "built-in" deal)
2. Mixed user reviews (some have a horrible time with it, some find it ggggreat - recently more have liked it)
3. Picky about memory (sometimes it likes cheap memory instead of the fancy Corsair kind)
4. Socket orientation (Thugsrook has posted, at least twice, about the HSF blowing straight onto DIMM1)
5. No need for special P4 power connector (makes people nervous)

Yes, there's more cons than pros, but that's only because I'm a pessimist. I'm getting my new P4 system soon and so far, I'm 90% sure I'm going to get the Epox 4G4A+. 10% is reserved for the Abit BG7 which seems a bit more stable, a tiny bit more likely to like higher FSBs, not picky about memory from what I've heard, but has no RAID (which is what I need). I think I'll take my chances with the Epox board...hope I don't regret it 😉
 
Originally posted by: TalonFyre
The Epox sounds better IMHO - with all the features and fairly high performance.

From what I know...

Some pros about this board are :

1. RAID
2. 3:4 & 4:5 ratios above 132 FSB
3. No need for special P4 power connector
4. Great performance

Some cons about this board are :

1. Integrated "crap" (some may not like the "built-in" deal)
2. Mixed user reviews (some have a horrible time with it, some find it ggggreat - recently more have liked it)
3. Picky about memory (sometimes it likes cheap memory instead of the fancy Corsair kind)
4. Socket orientation (Thugsrook has posted, at least twice, about the HSF blowing straight onto DIMM1)
5. No need for special P4 power connector (makes people nervous)

Yes, there's more cons than pros, but that's only because I'm a pessimist. I'm getting my new P4 system soon and so far, I'm 90% sure I'm going to get the Epox 4G4A+. 10% is reserved for the Abit BG7 which seems a bit more stable, a tiny bit more likely to like higher FSBs, not picky about memory from what I've heard, but has no RAID (which is what I need). I think I'll take my chances with the Epox board...hope I don't regret it 😉
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yes the BG7 as the P4B533-V haven't a raid controller. i don't understand why this lack...
i am puzzling about the overclocking facility of the EPoX. i have heard that previous mb have had some stability & overclocking issues (aka 8k3A+). moreover alot of integrated features don't help alot as well.
 
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