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AMD has stopped blocking CPU support, albeit recently. I think that may be why this BIOS was just posted. See this article. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17313/ryzen-7-5800x3d-launches-april-20th-plus-6-new-low-mid-range-ryzen-chips
They will be supporting Vermeer and others including the new 5800X3D on 300 series boards, I think this BIOS was released early by gigabyte now that this was announced. I would expect this support for many boards soon.
Can you please provide an example of a board from ASUS and MSI each, so I know what feature to look for?
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Ok. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570-ACE/Specification here is my board, note that it lists a Flash BIOS button under the back panel ports, with a designated USB port to insert the drive with the update file.
Asus calls their method USB BIOS flashback, and my X99 Deluxe has this feature.
Shouldn't be necessary. So long as there is Vermeer support, it should boot okay. It may not detect the CPU properly without an update, but it should at least boot so you can update the BIOS. The X3D is nothing more then a high cache version of the regular 5800X, so at worst the extra cache might be disabled. Since AMD has pretty good access to their own product road map, basic X3D support may already be hiding in there.
My A320M-K didn't come with support for the Athlon 200GE either, but it booted just fine on the factory Raven BIOS it shipped with. Just didn't recognise the Athlon properly at first boot.
Otherwise;
What happened when it didn't recognize the Athlon? Gave some error message to update BIOS? Or gave error message that it did not recognize the CPU but allowed to boot anyway?
Just gave it an "Unknown CPU" moniker, but that was about it from what I remember. Admittedly I didn't try booting the Windows installer, so I have no idea how that would turn out. Just updated the BIOS, and everything ran flawlessly from there.
Not completely, as of today, Cezanne is still blocked on the 300 series. We have to wait for Agesa 1.2.0.7 to see if the limitation is lifted.
But all other cpus should be supported on the 300 series, but it depends on OEM to provide bios for the boards. Gigabyte has been the best for that, Asus, MSI and Asrock are yet to provide bios updates for B350s, and some even lack X370 bios too.
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This is a fair point, I forgot about the Cezanne, that it is not supported yet though Renoir is. Interestingly, the article does not mention if Cezanne will be supported or not, just that the 5000 series Ryzens will be. So does that mean all the Ryzen 5000s, or just the ones without GPUs?
I must say that every Gigabyte board CPU support I've checked so far (A320,A520,B450,B550) has the 5800X3D listed as supported.
The info for now is no Cezanne for 300 series, that includes the ones whiout igpu like the 5500, but that may change silently on 1.2.0.7.
I have heard they dont work just yet, maybe the tables were updated before the new bios came out. That would make sence because Vermeer on B350/x370 was agesa blocked on 1.2.0.5 and 1.2.0.6.
ASUS AGESA v2 1.2.0.6b beta BIOSes for their X370 boards so far, boot Vermeer and it works without problems. Cezanne is still blocked.
Prime X370 Pro, Strix X370-F, X370-I on BIOS 6026
ROG C6E on BIOS 8503 (they released the Extreme BIOS before the Hero, that's interesting)
Things are getting better and better. Hopefully 1.2.0.7 unlocks Cezanne on 300 series boards and makes compatibility even across every manufacturer. People are already enjoying software based features like SAM on 300 series boards thanks to AGESA v2. Nice to see.
This is what kickstarted the shitstorm that made AMD publicily state through an employee they were exploring Zen3 support on 300 boards, because a few months before this, we had official AGESA V2 1.2.0.3c BIOSes for A320 boards across all manufacturers, that POST Renoir and Vermeer, but not Cezanne.
Why the f*** would you update old boards to the new codebase, be able to run 5000 series CPUs on puny A320 boards but not B350 or X370? It was all so absurd.
As a result....
we get AGESA v2 1.2.0.7 which is AMD's official release for Zen3 support on 300 series boards (and an update for the rest of the AM4 ecosystem that also fixes fTPM stutter). Hopefully this release finally unlocks Cezanne. Timeline for new BIOSes is April/May.
Prime X370 Pro, Strix X370-F, X370-I on BIOS 6026
ROG C6E on BIOS 8503 (they released the Extreme BIOS before the Hero, that's interesting)
Things are getting better and better. Hopefully 1.2.0.7 unlocks Cezanne on 300 series boards and makes compatibility even across every manufacturer. People are already enjoying software based features like SAM on 300 series boards thanks to AGESA v2. Nice to see.
All Gigabyte AGESA v2 1.2.0.5 releases for their B350/X370 don't POST Vermeer nor Cezanne. Only Renoir.
This is what kickstarted the shitstorm that made AMD publicily state through an employee they were exploring Zen3 support on 300 boards, because a few months before this, we had official AGESA V2 1.2.0.3c BIOSes for A320 boards across all manufacturers, that POST Renoir and Vermeer, but not Cezanne.
Why the f*** would you update old boards to the new codebase, be able to run 5000 series CPUs on puny A320 boards but not B350 or X370? It was all so absurd.
As a result....
we get AGESA v2 1.2.0.7 which is AMD's official release for Zen3 support on 300 series boards (and an update for the rest of the AM4 ecosystem that also fixes fTPM stutter). Hopefully this release finally unlocks Cezanne. Timeline for new BIOSes is April/May.
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Asus is starting to roll out bios updates for their B350 and X370 boards ahead of time using Agesa 1.2.0.6b
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They havent updated the cpu support list yet, 1.2.0.6b should fully support Renoir and Vermeer, but not Cezanne.
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They havent updated the cpu support list yet, 1.2.0.6b should fully support Renoir and Vermeer, but not Cezanne.
ASrock already released their 1.2.0.7 bios for the A320M-HDV R4.0 confirms Cezanne support on 300 series. Finally.
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1. Support Cezanne CPU
2. Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.7
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2. Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo V2 PI 1.2.0.7
Just found out my AB350M Pro4 got the 1207 update (BIOS 7.20). So update time it is. Now my 1700 is running with Above 4G Decoding and Resize BAR (SAM) enabled. I didn't think an old Polaris card (Radeon Pro WX2100) was supported, but apparently it is.
Now who says you can't teach an old Ryzen new tricks?
Now who says you can't teach an old Ryzen new tricks?
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Too bad those boards STILL can't run a 2200G sucessfully...Just found out my AB350M Pro4 got the 1207 update (BIOS 7.20). So update time it is. Now my 1700 is running with Above 4G Decoding and Resize BAR (SAM) enabled. I didn't think an old Polaris card (Radeon Pro WX2100) was supported, but apparently it is.
Now who says you can't teach an old Ryzen new tricks?
...and a 1207 BIOS is just up for my A320M-K with official Cezanne support. Must resist that Zen3 itching.
Never would have expected such a level of support for such a cheap board.
Edit; There seems to have been a bit of memory optimisation. Before my Athlon could do ~39500MB/s with DDR-3600 (@18-25-25-58. All the poor thing can do stable). Now it consistently hits ~40500MB/s the the same settings. Excellent.
Never would have expected such a level of support for such a cheap board.
Edit; There seems to have been a bit of memory optimisation. Before my Athlon could do ~39500MB/s with DDR-3600 (@18-25-25-58. All the poor thing can do stable). Now it consistently hits ~40500MB/s the the same settings. Excellent.
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