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Question ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming OC smiles for the camera. TWEAKTOWN

JPB

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ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming OC smiles for the camera


We should expect ASUS to unleash the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming OC graphics card for over just over $400 on December 2.

NVIDIA and its AIB partners are preparing for the impending release of the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, with the new custom ASUS RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming smiling for the camera. Check it out:



ASUS appears to be going with a triple-fan cooler on the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming, with a single 8-pin PCIe power connector required. You still have a chunky 2.5-slot card, so I would've liked to have seen a thinner dual-slot card with a single 8-pin connector, that would've been nice.

We should expect some higher clocks than NVIDIA's own GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Founders Edition card, but expect the ROG STRIX variant to have even higher clocks. As for pricing, we should expect a little over $400 when it launches next month.




 

VirtualLarry

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Looking pretty good.

My question is, of course, what is its hashrate on ETH, and F@H PPD.

The RX 5700XT is MSRP $400 too, and does 49MH/sec out of the box on ETH. F@H PPD is a little above 900K PPD. (GTX 1660ti is around 1-1.1Mil PPD in F@H.)
 
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Mopetar

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Let me guess. $400 for FE, which no one will be able to buy and $500 for AIB models. But the card looks good value if it were actually available to buy at $400.
This card will probably be close to a 2080 SUPER based on rumors and estimated performance and those still run around $800, so it's pretty clear that it's going to take a while to supply that kind of demand spike. No market cuts the price in half for the same value because it has to and the higher prices are just a reflection of the fact that you can't cleanly cut prices in half if you don't have near enough supply.
 

Dribble

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Another 8GB card, lulz. Meanwhile AMD will likely have have 12GB as a competitor.

I give it 3-6 months tops before nVidia starts "refreshing" their products with non-farcical VRAM amounts.
I somehow doubt they are gonna have any difficulty selling these. Vs AMD forget the 6700XT chances are it'll outperform a 6900XT in a number of key games that support DLSS+RT - minecraft, cyberpunk 2077, etc.
 
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Head1985

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Let me guess. $400 for FE, which no one will be able to buy and $500 for AIB models. But the card looks good value if it were actually available to buy at $400.
More like 500-600euro for AIB
 

DJinPrime

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Another 8GB card, lulz. Meanwhile AMD will likely have have 12GB as a competitor.

I give it 3-6 months tops before nVidia starts "refreshing" their products with non-farcical VRAM amounts.
Okay, you got to be trolling at this point. Complaining about 8GB on a mid tier card? So, you want 12 or 16 GB, you think the ram is free? Why do you think the AIB are complaining they can't make money at reference price and have to raise price? Look at what's happening with the 6800 cards, you don't think AMD is passing the cost of the VRAM to the AIB and in turn to the consumers? There's already a thread complaining about 10GB for the 3080, which is a much more valid concern. Stop trolling.


More like 500-600euro for AIB
Europe price is screwed up if those end up being true. US reputable retailers like newegg and bestbuy are selling 30 series card at regular price. I know, I got an AIB 3070 for $540 without combo from newegg a few weeks ago and I saw bestbuy with regular price when the cards come in stock. But who knows, since people are buying the expensive 6800s, maybe the AIBs will also increase NV cards by 20% instead of the typical 10%. That sucks if it happens.
 

Bouowmx

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Okay, you got to be trolling at this point. Complaining about 8GB on a mid tier card? So, you want 12 or 16 GB, you think the ram is free? Why do you think the AIB are complaining they can't make money at reference price and have to raise price? Look at what's happening with the 6800 cards, you don't think AMD is passing the cost of the VRAM to the AIB and in turn to the consumers? There's already a thread complaining about 10GB for the 3080, which is a much more valid concern. Stop trolling.
Nah, let the "muh VRAM" people wait for a 12 GB Radeon. More GeForce for the rest.
 

Head1985

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Btw only available 3070 in czech republic cost 710usd and its some crap zotac card LOL

Its just crazy.
 

mohit9206

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Btw only available 3070 in czech republic cost 710usd and its some crap zotac card LOL

Its just crazy.
I've read that beer is cheapest in the world in Czech Republic so atleast you have something cheap.
 

VirtualLarry

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NO... but there is a special room in hell for Miners.
Don't you think that's a bit over-stated? Miners drive the blockchain(s) forward (for most of them, using Proof-of-Work). Blockchains, can get us wonderful things, like "blockchain voting" (something that should happen soon, it would have eliminated most of the issues around the recent US national vote, and is already being used by several countries), as well as the new "distributed web", where web sites can exist in a fully-decentralized manner, and cannot be shut down, nor could, in theory, individual posts be censored. That's the type of technology that blockchains are propelling forward. You really are against those things?

Those are the people (miners included) that are really fighting for our freedom right now, not a bunch of geezers with guns, shouting about masks...
 

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Falling out of gaming over the past 5 years and the fact my gtx1080 might be on its last legs a 3060ti might be a perfect fit for me. That is if like others have stated you can grab one around that $400USD price point.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Miners are pushing gamers out of PC gaming, and probably into console gaming. But then again, scalpers are pushing console gamers out of console gaming and into nothing because they are holding up supply chains.
 

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Is there an authorized US retailer that’s taking pre-orders? How I wish that we/forum members have connection in purchasing these new video cards for upgrading our current system.
 

Bouowmx

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Is there an authorized US retailer that’s taking pre-orders? How I wish that we/forum members have connection in purchasing these new video cards for upgrading our current system.
Would retailers even comment about a non-public product? Seems like the thing for the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti launch is reveal AND reviews on Dec 1, and sales on Dec 2.
 

John Carmack

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Let me guess. $400 for FE, which no one will be able to buy and $500 for AIB models. But the card looks good value if it were actually available to buy at $400.
The beatings have been normalized. The 1060 6GB (essentially 1060 Ti) started at $250 for non-crap AIB models... Even the prices for the x50 tier have been steadily climbing from 750 to 950 to 1050 to 1650.
 

Mopetar

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The beatings have been normalized. The 1060 6GB (essentially 1060 Ti) started at $250 for non-crap AIB models... Even the prices for the x50 tier have been steadily climbing from 750 to 950 to 1050 to 1650.
With this most recent generation Nvidia has shifted the models around slightly so they're no longer positioned as they have been in the most recent generation with respect the different tiers of dies that Nvidia creates. Basing the expectation of pricing around a name like that is silly because it's merely an arbitrary designation that all companies get to choose and that is subject to changes over times as well as marketing shenanigans.

Take the Ti branding that Nvidia uses for it's cards. Most recently it's associated with their high-end cards, most typically the xx80 Ti cards. However, before that it was used for midrange cards (x50 and x60) only during the Fermi and Kepler generations. Prior to that it dates back to the GeForce 2, 3, and 4 series cards where it started off as a bit of a confusing mess launching as part of the GeForce 2 Ti, GeForce 3 200Ti and GeForce 3 500Ti which all came out on the same day and had some bizarre product stack placement.

AnandTech actually has a really good roundup of a lot of different cards and some benchmarks of the performance that you can go back and read if you want a trip down nostalgia lane. The GeForce 2 Ti was essentially a die shrink of the GeForce 2 GTS with better clock speeds. The GeForce 2 Ti wasn't quite the top card of its generation as it didn't quite match the GeForce 2 Ultra. The other two cards were even more confusing landing on either side of the original GeForce3 in terms of performance. During the GeForce 4 series Ti was the premium brand designation as opposed to the MX cards which were the low/mid-range cards. Then it vanished for almost a decade.

The point is that if something like the Ti designation can change so much and move around the product stack, why should any other designation be expected to remain static? If you go back to the 200 series the x60 card used the same die as the x80 card. This was also true for Fermi and Kepler where x60 cards used the same die as the x80 card. By the time we get to Pascal, the x60 has been relegated to the third tier of dies with the exception of a few refresh models released later on in the generation using heavily cut down second tier dies.

The x50 card has also moved positions on the stack. It went from having upwards of 6-8 other cards below it during the 200 - 700 series generations when it was the top card in Nvidia's wide selection of low-end GPUs only to have its position dwindle towards the bottom of the entire stack where it now resides as the lowest Turing card. The x50 card cost the same $150 when it launched over a decade ago as the 250 as the 1650 did when it launched last year, and the price of the x50 card has bobbed up and down in between then costing as much as $160 with the 960 and as low as $110 with the 650 and 1050. Look at the die sizes and you'll likely see a correlation with the price charged.

All of these comparisons are ultimately meaningless since the model numbers and other designations are completely arbitrary. In another decade the xx80 cards might be the designation for low-end cards if it exists at all. The only thing to look at is inflation adjusted prices and what kind of features or performance you can get for a specific amount when compared to other points in history. Further adjust for the increase in die sizes and need for better build quality due to increased thermals and you're getting a lot more for your money during the more recent generations.

A good analogy is the automobile. A car today costs around $20,000 new for an entry level vehicle. At a glance it might seem as though they were far cheaper when you could get a car for $2,000 in 1960 or even less at $800 in 1909 when the Model T was introduced, but adjust for inflation and those earlier examples are right back around $20,000. You get a considerably better car today with greater performance, more features, and far better safety standards. Increases in real median income also mean that a $20,000 car has become a smaller part of the average individual's pay check. Previously it would take more than a year's salary for most individuals to buy that car. Now more than half of the working population would not only be able to purchase one, but have money left over afterwards.

TLDR: It's actually not only not as bad as it may appear to be in reality, but typically better than at earlier points in history. Whining is generally misdirected.
 

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