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Like I said, check www.tbreak.com 's criteria on judging motherboard stability. I agree with it.

STILL... JUST as a comment... I saw... uhm... I beleive in www.ocworkbench.com ... or somewhere... a review on the KT6. It makes comparasion between it, Epox and the Asus...

The Asus always comes last... wich I find weird.

Any ideas?
 
the newer bios updates brings them all fairly even (pretty much within + or - 1% of each other)
which is to be expected since they all stay pretty close to the reference design
 
on a different topic... how many of you guys who own the a7v600 have tried to find the fsb overclocking limit?

this system right now has been running prime95 for the last 3 hrs at 226mhz fsb (its an xp1700+ running 10x multiplier so a total speed of 2.26ghz).... im pretty sure its the ram thats at its limit since anything over 226mhz and it starts producing errors with memtest86

im tempted to up the multiplier to either 10.5x or 11x (but i would need to change fans... its currently just running a very low rpm fan on a thermalright slk-800)
 
If anyone has a KT600 (or KT400A) motherboard, an Adaptec SCSI card and Adaptec SCSIBench, I have a benchmark request: SCSIBench same-sector reads with 224kb blocksize from a recent-model SCSI drive and tell me how fast it goes.

On my KT333 board, there were bandwidth problems. It reached about 72MB/sec if I disabled the PCI-based USB 2.0 controller, or about 49MB/sec if I didn't. On nForce 220D and nForce 2, I get about 120MB/sec, which is basically the practical ceiling for a 32-bit 33MHz PCI bus.

Considering that the drive's sustained-transfer rate is close to 60MB/sec with bursts peaking who-knows-how-high, I wasn't content with 49Mb/sec 😛 I battled the issue for a while to see what could be done about it, and gave detailed bug reports to VIA and Asus (no response/no response), and eventually just retired that board to my home system and used nForce 220D, and eventually nForce2, at work. Incidentally, my lowly ECS K7S5A was not far behind the nForce/nForce2 results either.

If it weren't for this disappointment in my past, I'd be a little more open-minded about VIA SocketA chipsets. Anyone who has an Adaptec x9160 and SCSIBench is welcome to lay that question to rest 🙂
 
It happens. Its been the oh-so-ever-present problem with VIA chipsets. VERY low southbridge bandwith... no matter how much they upgrade their 'V-Link'. Remember all those issues? PCI Latency problems? Patches+patches+patches?

SiS 735 is a uni-chip solution, hence no connection needed to controll southbridge functions... which gives a bandwith of 1Gb/s and called... err... MuTIOL (?).

Same goes to nForce 2: Hypertransport. 😉
 
Aenslead i hate to keep ripping on you, but once again you seem to be mis informed (or just so anti via your skewing the facts)

the v-link on the kt400 and newer have twice the bandwidth of kt333
and no patching/ect is needed to get great performance from it 🙂

i have 3 optical drives and 4 hdd's (plus all the other normal stuff, ie lan, etc) and dont seem to be having any bandwidth problems

for that matter the ide controller seems faster then i expected... sandra "file system benchmark" shows my main drive scoring almost identical when its on the onboard controller or on an add-in promise controller (its an 80gb ibm 180gxp) sandra scores are all right around 35700 (the lowest score was 35652 and the highest was 35749)


 
Well, the cards you just mentioned DO NOT require high bandwith or low latency in order to run just fine. They could run just as well in any 440BX board out there.

Its SCSI cards like mechBgon's that will show you just how bad it performs.

Problem being is... no matter how much more bandwith they pump into V-Link, it will just never work any better. Office performance tests, like ZD's will show you a better picture of what I am trying to teach you just right now.

www.ocworkbench.com does some good comparasions. SiS is the champ for I/O bandwith... nVidia is second... Intel being third... and VIA... well... uhm... last.
 
no matter how much more bandwith they pump into V-Link, it will just never work any better
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uhh sorry but again you are either mis-informed or spreading fud 🙂

it not only can work better, it does work better...
my promise controller with 3 harddrives performs great on this motherboard (it still worked ok on my kt333 board, but is much faster now)


you keep refering to reviews/comparisons/etc... providing links would be helpful 🙂
 
To the guys who got the KT600 boards, you got very good boards for the price. I have a Giga 400Pro in one box that seems to be working very well. I had to upgrade the drivers imediately right out of the box just to get the audio to work at all. Same for the onboard lan. And this is an NF2 mobo! If I wanted to build a cheaper box with a few less features, but still have decent performance ( such as the one I want to build for my daughter who doesn't give a d.... about oc and for whom I would want a stable machine) I would, or should say, am considering th KT600 especially after reading the initial reviews.
 
carpenter ive already built several pc's using kt600 based boards... all have been trouble free setups 🙂
so if you do go with a kt600 based board hopefully you will have an easy time of it

even though my personal pc is using the asus a7v600, i think i slightly prefer the soltek kt600 board. the ones ive used were sooo easy to setup, and i love the layout, plus its feature packed for not a lot of $$ (newegg has it for around $80 shipped)

nforce2 is a great chipset, and some great boards are based on it. but in my limited experience with it (ive only built a couple systems using nf2) they seem to be a little troublesome while initially setting them up
 
Originally posted by: Aenslead
Like I said, check www.tbreak.com 's criteria on judging motherboard stability. I agree with it.

STILL... JUST as a comment... I saw... uhm... I beleive in www.ocworkbench.com ... or somewhere... a review on the KT6. It makes comparasion between it, Epox and the Asus...

The Asus always comes last... wich I find weird.

Any ideas?
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At 44 Posts and the kind of posts you ar doing you are obviously a troll, FUDDER and thread crapper, the guys in here are way beyond your nonsense so just stop it already STFU.

ASUS boards are always stable which is not a bad thing if it comes in last in some comparision if the other boards lock up if you breathe on them.

I wouldn't worry about the overvolt anyone in here or the "extra" heat you may feel is being produced. Mech will tell you I've cranked the voltages all the way up from day one with no extra cooling and never have had any problems. Just adds a little extra heat in the room which is nice in the winter.



 
you keep refering to reviews/comparisons/etc... providing links would be helpful
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Sure... but I have a much better idea: why don't YOU post reviews where you point me wrong?

Would be much more helpful.

Besides... you use an excsesive amount on happy faces... no wonder you have that signature... 😉 (j/k)
 
http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1324&page=6
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uhh what was that link supposed to show? you are making all kinds of statments about kt600 vs sis/intel/nforce/etc... i guess i dont see where this link backs up your claim that increased vlink bandwidth doesnt help, or that via kt600 has some of the same pci latency problems of earlier chipsets?

 
Listen, the fact of the matter is, this thread is here to discuss issues concerning the Asus A7V600. Granted nForce2 might be nice and all, but if these guys wanted an nforce 2 board, they would have gotten one. They wanted a KT600 board so lay off the nforce2 promoting.
 
That link wasnt for you. It was for dmcowen674.

He was ramming about my statement that ASUS A7V600 wasn't working on par with other motherboards with the same chipset. That adress is the proof to my statement.
 
they were reviewing the epox board and comparing it to the asus board that was reviewed a couple weeks ago

if you actually read the page (instead of just look at the pretty graphs) you would have seen where they mentioned they have a new bios revision for the asus board and they are currently re-testing it


with the latest bios updates all the boards ive seen perform very similar to each other (epox always has good performing boards though... they seem to spend more time tweaking and getting the best performance, which is very cool 🙂 ive always liked the epox boards ive had the pleasure of using)
 
I already read that article, I don't see what that has to do with the Asus board. The only 2 boards that ever fried on me were MSI boards. So I rather stay away from them. I am sure they make nice boards, that actually keep working, but I don't seem to have a lot of luck with them.

Anyway, this thread just started about the Asus A7V600 and the Vcore temperatures. It's a shame it turned into a mud slinging contest 🙂.
 
I've purchased mine the day it showed up on newegg. Installed easily and has been problem free since. I have a Barton 2.5 and a gig of XMS ram. I highly recommend this board to anyone.
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
If anyone has a KT600 (or KT400A) motherboard, an Adaptec SCSI card and Adaptec SCSIBench, I have a benchmark request: SCSIBench same-sector reads with 224kb blocksize from a recent-model SCSI drive and tell me how fast it goes.

On my KT333 board, there were bandwidth problems. It reached about 72MB/sec if I disabled the PCI-based USB 2.0 controller, or about 49MB/sec if I didn't. On nForce 220D and nForce 2, I get about 120MB/sec, which is basically the practical ceiling for a 32-bit 33MHz PCI bus.

Considering that the drive's sustained-transfer rate is close to 60MB/sec with bursts peaking who-knows-how-high, I wasn't content with 49Mb/sec 😛 I battled the issue for a while to see what could be done about it, and gave detailed bug reports to VIA and Asus (no response/no response), and eventually just retired that board to my home system and used nForce 220D, and eventually nForce2, at work. Incidentally, my lowly ECS K7S5A was not far behind the nForce/nForce2 results either.

If it weren't for this disappointment in my past, I'd be a little more open-minded about VIA SocketA chipsets. Anyone who has an Adaptec x9160 and SCSIBench is welcome to lay that question to rest 🙂
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Mech, did you ever get the info you were looking for on this board?


 
any try the new beta bios 1006.004?

i currently use bios 1005 and it works great, but the one thing that kinda bugs me is the hdd led only works on ide harddrives
and since my only harddrives are sata the hdd led stays off

im just hoping the new bios fixes that 🙂
 
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