Asus A7V266-E & KT266A - in short, it's crap!

HayesE

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There goes that experiment. At work we have a dedicated machine that does nothing but output tens of tousands of PDF's based on foxpro data for our internal web based application. This process takes longer and longer as our database grows - up to 7 hours on a PIII 866. Had to do something, as the process is sneaking up to backup tape time on the server. Well, being the adventure some type, I decided to go ahead and give an Athlon XP/KT266A platform a shot. Well it's not really a test for the Athlon XP, but for VIA with the new KT266A chipset. And what better board to use then the perceived cat's ass, the Asus A7V266-E.

3 Different boards (all rev 1.07, w/ latest BIOS 1.05e from asuscom.de), all exhibiting the attributes I have grown to love from VIA. Random, HARD lock ups. No BSOD's, just a pure freeze that locks Win2K like I've never seen before. Sure, it would install fine and run for hours; procedure was install Win2k, apply SP2, apply latest 4in1, then the latest BM and AGP patches released 2 weeks ago. Then Windowsupdate, bigfix, blah blah every god damn patch and latest driver. Every so often, no matter what I'm doing, the thing will lock up HARD, at random. Disabled all extras, the RAID, sound controllers. Never oc'ed, and used the slowest, most conservative chipset/memory settings. DDR RAM (512MB) was Crucial CLS 2.5 - For the task we need this system to do, there is no room for failure or lock ups. Not one.

A7V266-E, 512 MB DDR, XP 1900+, Intel NIC, IBM 60GXP, TNT1 16MB.

The PDF output job was almost 90% done, in 2 hours 15 minutes(!!!), before it locked up. Too bad, would have been a record. Other attempts would lock up in less time.

Going back to the local vendor and getting a an AMD760 based board. I've wasted enough of my time trying to get something functional that should work out of the box. Our Foxpro guy of course thinks that we should just stick with an Intel platform, and I can't say I blame him, as our PIII never EVER EVER CRASHED, not once. I'm smart enough to know that it's not AMD but it's supporting cast at fault, so hopefully the AMD760 will calm nerves.

Thank you VIA for the memories, you've just reinstated my faith that you are indeed still the goatse.cx of chipsets.

I'm beggining to now understand what most of these asstards who write website reviews regard as "stable". As in, they really don't test real world office mission-critical stability. Running Q3 Demo1 in a loop for a day seems to be enough for them.

Notes: Yes, I'm aware that the latest, latest AGP driver may have issues due to it's register remapping. The hard locks occured with both the 4in1 AGP, and the newer AGP. Same goes for the BM driver. Yes, I'm aware the latest NVIDIA drivers are causing a stink with XP and possible 2k based via jobs. Only using the last WHQL released from them which is v21.83 not v23.11
 

jobert

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Back in the days when Anand's Forums had about 2000 registrants
I used to post commentary like this and the entire forum would yell
at me for being "Anti-AMD".

Why do you suppose AMD refuses to really get serious about
doing their own chipsets? Intel learned decades ago that they
had to do it. Why won't AMD?
 

Nebakanezzar

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Um, dont know how relevent this is, but....i went to the asus site

<< asuscom.de >>

and checked out the Bios

<< latest BIOS 1.05e >>

that bios is for the Asus A7V266..not the A7V266E. not sure if that makes a diff or not...but i would think it would...
 

AA0

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AMD makes cpus because its very profitable, If they make chipsets, they use their limited resources to make less money.
 

Triggerhappy007

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The ftp at asus has 1.05e for the A7V266-E, the A7V266 has 1003 or something. I'm sure he had the right BIOS.

Too bad that the AMD combo didn't work for you.
 

tazdevl

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Sounds like you have an issue with Via... not Asus. I suggest you change the title of your post. Perhaps there's an incompatibility in your system that you've overlooked.

Secondly.... for the A7V266E the latest BIOS is 1004B. Hit the Taiwan and US sites... no 1005E BIOS there. I will bet big money that the 1005E is a beta BIOS since it isn't on any other site. Asus Germany just got a bit too aggressive posting it.

 

clumsum

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I'm having some similiar problems on a non-ViA board, ............. SiS 735 .............

Could ACPI possibly be causing some or all of these lock-ups?
 

GozerHozer

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Hi, Make sure you have all you power management is turned off, and no screen saver.
Do it in your BIOS and Windows.
I run my Asus A7V266-E (24/7) with no problems. I run Win2000 server and XP pro.
My full time Win2000 server is running 24/7 on my Asus A7V133 KT133A with a AMD 1200c
What is your power supply? What are you cooling with?
To bad your having these problems, I think the AMD XP and Asus MB are a very good combo.
Good Luck.

27?? case-Dual fan-Enermax350w +8 fan with thermal control Digital Doctor5
Enermax 550W Dual Fan EG651P-VE(FC)
ASUS A7V266-E KT266A ATA100 RAID-0 W/S
AMD XP1700+ @1573GHz (11*143fsb)
Swiftech MC462-A w/Sanyo Denki 53cfm Fan @41c
1 Dimm of 256MB Crucial DDR@143MHz Cas2-2-2-5
2 IBM 60GB Deskstar 60GXP =120GB ATA100@7200RPM in RAID-0
1 Maxtor 40.9GB 7200RPM-ATA100 Dual-boot Win2000 Server/Win-XP PRo
ASUS V8200 Deluxe GeForce3 64MB DDR
Sony 21" Trinitron
Sound Blaster Platinum 5.1 with remote.
2 full sets of Altec Lansing 495's (2.1) with 2 sub's.
Hitachi DVD drive.
Hp 9100i CD-writer
Intel Pro100 Nic (PCI)
@home cable Internet and so on...

3D Mark 2001=8503
 

AkumaBao

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Yeah, the BIOS is 1003 for the A7V266. Not that it matter since this board's coming out in 2 days. (Piece of crap!) Anyone want it?

 

darth maul

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<< (Piece of crap!) Anyone want it? >>



Since its crap, I will take it for free, I guess I can pay for shipping, but not a dollar more.
 

StormRider

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It would be interesting to see how the other chipsets (SiS 735, Ali Magik 1) do in a similar test.

For me, stability has always been the number 1 concern for me and I would pick a slightly slower but more stable chipset any day over a faster unstable chipset. This has been a pet peeve of mine with most hardware sites. The only thing people seem to care about these days is overclocking and benchmark scores.

No one seems interested in stability and compatibility.
 

Leokor

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<< Why do you suppose AMD refuses to really get serious about
doing their own chipsets? Intel learned decades ago that they
had to do it. Why won't AMD?
>>



This is very simple. AMD doesn't have enough production capabilities. It was estimated once, that even should Intel magically disappear tomorrow, AMD would not be able to satisfy more than 25% of CPU demand. In other words, even if Intel ignores AMD as a competitor and does absolutely nothing, it will never lose more than 25% of the market, unless AMD builds more factories or outsources drastically.

Now you understand why AMD doesn't also manufacturer chipsets in addition to CPUs?

Leo
 

Leokor

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<< It would be interesting to see how the other chipsets (SiS 735, Ali Magik 1) do in a similar test. >>



I'm curious too, but about nForce.

Leo
 

Freejack2

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HayesE, if you haven't returned these boards yet, try going into bios and taking all the memory settings off auto. Use more agressive memory timings.
Also try setting the agp driving values from auto to D and A
No guarantees it'll work but it seems to have helped my system.
 

StormRider

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<<
I'm curious too, but about nForce.
>>



Oh yeah, how could I forget the nForce chipset? That's probably the most interesting one out there...
 

randomlinh

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especially w/ the crapping down when three dimm slots are filled... granted it's their first hack at it (other than xbox), but still, it was "found out" of course. still wanna see more boards make a run for stability and speed.. and hopefully drive costs a bit down.