ASUS 6800 ULTRA PCI-E!!

[vinayb]

hey guys check this out>>>
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/pri...ntent.asp?id=6800upcie
nothing new, but I thought that it will be a single slot solution
they even had a pic of their two single slot ultras plugged in their A8N-SLI Deluxe mboard package as well as on their website!!!
and hey, just guess the price... froogle to find it!!! YOU WILL BE SHOCKED:frown:

 

[hundesau]

the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yeah, the 6600GT's in SLI don't look worth it.

The main reason people are putting the 6600GT's into their SLI boards is that there are no other cards available. If they want an SLI set up now, it pretty much has to be with 6600GT's.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

You're an idiot if you SLi 6600GTs, thus your point is moot.

 

[Relion]

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

You're an idiot if you SLi 6600GTs, thus your point is moot.

You are an idiot if you think you have though of all posibilities.....I will SLI my board in a year or so...because #1 I cant afford a 6800Gt/Ultra now or in a year...I know it.... #2 6600Gt will be cheaper for then

 

[jterrell]

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

One 6800 GT does not always beat 6600GTs in SLI. Try re-reading Tom's Hardware PCi-Express review. Different games with different settings and resolutions have wildly different results.
There are tons of benchmarks and tons of settings. The 6600 GT is clearly the BEST CARD you can buy for 200 bucks.

1 6600 GT can run you 180 bucks so 2 for 360 yet similar to better peformance than a 6800 GT which is 400 or more right now.

Pick the game you want to play and tell me what resolution and with what settings then show me how that has been proven to be far superior on 1 6800GT as compared to SLI'd 6600GT's.

And FWIW I didn't go SLI so I have no personal stake in proving SLI to be valuable.

 

[LTC8K6]

SLI still makes little sense to me unless you can afford the high end cards to put in it. The 6600GT's just aren't impressive next to the high end single cards, imo.

I predict a gusher of 6600GT's for sale in a little while.

The way most people were talking, they were going to get one card now and one later. A 6800GT was the usual card mentioned. I guess the PCI-E versions of those cards were too far behind the SLI boards, so the 6600GT became the stand in.

NV is making a killing selling the 6600GT's now, and their replacements a little later.

 

[hundesau]

@jterrel: but dont forget the other disadvatages of the 6600gt`s in SLI mode:
1. More power consumption
2. more heat in case
3. more noise
4. 6600gts are highclocked already and not good to overclock any further.
5. A 6800gt will be likeley occable to 6800Ultra niveau.
6. motherboards are more expensive

Alot of disadvantages for a SLI solution that wont win clearly in benchmarks over a single card solution.



@LTC8K6: The plan to buy a second 6600GT in a year can go wrong, its not guaranteed that its gonna work without problems due to differnt chip and pcb revisions and layout. U gonna have to buy an "old" one that fits the revision u already have, maybe ebay gonna be only way then...

After all, when a SLI solution is not the better performer in really every benchmark, or at least most benchmarks, so that u can say: SLI system is faster indeed, then why take all the disadvatages and possible problems?

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Relion

Originally posted by: aeternitas

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

You're an idiot if you SLi 6600GTs, thus your point is moot.

You are an idiot if you think you have though of all posibilities.....I will SLI my board in a year or so...because #1 I cant afford a 6800Gt/Ultra now or in a year...I know it.... #2 6600Gt will be cheaper for then

You cant affort a 6800GT becuase you got an SLi board, dumbass. OC 6800GT 128 is way fuck'n better than Sli 6600GTs.

 

[imported_slippy]

Well, I don't care much about SLI... what I cared about when I got the A8n-sli was PCI-e, and it was the only amd board on the market with it. The 6600GT just kicks the crap out of the alternatives in its price range and that's why I grabbed it.

It's working great and I'm having fun with it.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: jterrell

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

One 6800 GT does not always beat 6600GTs in SLI. Try re-reading Tom's Hardware PCi-Express review. Different games with different settings and resolutions have wildly different results.
There are tons of benchmarks and tons of settings. The 6600 GT is clearly the BEST CARD you can buy for 200 bucks.

1 6600 GT can run you 180 bucks so 2 for 360 yet similar to better peformance than a 6800 GT which is 400 or more right now.

Pick the game you want to play and tell me what resolution and with what settings then show me how that has been proven to be far superior on 1 6800GT as compared to SLI'd 6600GT's.

And FWIW I didn't go SLI so I have no personal stake in proving SLI to be valuable.

The 6600GT is the best card for around $200, I agree. But thats not the issue so dont get lost here. The issue is, people buying 6600GTs for the SLi boards are idiots. http://images.anandtech.com/gr..._112304101104/5538.png The amount you spend on the SLi board can be used to upgrade to a 6800GT 128 and OC it on a ultra board. Not to mention the new trick to 2x/16x pcie Sli an ultra.

1. 360 for 2 6600GTs is not going to get you the preformance of one 6800GT. Why? Becuase PEOPLE THAT BUY 6800GT DONT RUN IN PANZY 1024x768 with all the eye candy off. Who else does not understand this simple logic?

 

[hundesau]

"Not to mention the new trick to 2x/16x pcie Sli an ultra."

Link please?!


and dont go to deep into that 1600x1200 topic, cuz this is an area where both ATI and Nvidia really suck. I wish they would be implementing a better anisotropic filtering method for more quality pictures in their cards instead of making them run fast in high resoluions which is always resulting in bad picture quality, eg in 1600x1200 even when u have 16xAF turned on it will often only be 2xAF quality, but thats another story too technicakl to explain with my bad english. Ati`s and NVidias concepts are really bad concerning high resolution and AF.

 

[bob661]

I'd like to know what SLI motherboard costs over $400. SLI boards are $180 - $220 and 6600GT's are $180 - $200. Both of those are hmmmm $360 - $400!!! Ok. Drop the SLI board and get an Ultra board instead, Gigabyte's Ultra board is $219 right now so you aren't saving anything there but for the sake of argument we'll say $150 because that's how much the DFI Ultra is supposed to cost. Total cost is now $350 for a 6600GT and mobo. That's definitely is not the cost of a 6800GT. Ok. How about two 6600GT's and a SLI board. Cost? $540 - $630. One 6800GT and an Ultra board cost about $550 on paper but in reality cost more like $690ish. A single 6800GT PCIe (if can find one) runs about $400 - $700. If you can get a PCIe 6800GT for $400 then you'll save $80 at the most and pay $10 extra at the least for the video and mobo. Two 6600GT's are the best bet right now. I probably won't buy another 6600GT but I don't doubt the bang for the buck it has right now.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: hundesau
the review shos how stupid SLI is at this poiint of time. One 6800GT beats 2x6600gt ez. Saving energy and noise. But peeps freak out on SLI and think they really need it. Thanks Nvidia, but i dont want ur SLI, all i want is ur top-end cards when u announce them and not 9months later for 1000$.

SLI is stupid? Um, no it's not. What's wrong with buying an SLI based motherboard and a single 6800GT for now and another later on when they're more available and cheaper? Those benchmarks don't lie - it's the fastest setup available and will be for some time.

And if you want to bitch about cards not being available don't look at Nvidia. ATI still hasn't managed to get their X800XT card to the public. At least Nvidia got some 6800 GT's and Ultra's out there. As far as I'm concerned the X800XT doesn't exist because, like a Unicorn, to this day I've never seen one.

 

[AiponGkooja]

Originally posted by: aeternitas

The 6600GT is the best card for around $200, I agree. But thats not the issue so dont get lost here. The issue is, people buying 6600GTs for the SLi boards are idiots. http://images.anandtech.com/gr..._112304101104/5538.png The amount you spend on the SLi board can be used to upgrade to a 6800GT 128 and OC it on a ultra board. Not to mention the new trick to 2x/16x pcie Sli an ultra.

1. 360 for 2 6600GTs is not going to get you the preformance of one 6800GT. Why? Becuase PEOPLE THAT BUY 6800GT DONT RUN IN PANZY 1024x768 with all the eye candy off. Who else does not understand this simple logic?

I bought a 6600gt for my SLI board. Nothing else was available, so I got this to pass the time while others come back in stock and prices go down...I fail to see how that makes me an idiot. I got the SLI board in the first place for the upgrade factor. Some people seem to like ignoring the fact that the board itself is a really good board (even ignoring the SLI), and it gives you the ability to upgrade an insane amount whether you do it now, or wait a little later. The SLI is just another area where it is great for upgrading. Since I was making a new computer (my first build) I thought it a wise decision to go with the best board possible, as it will probably be the last thing to get replaced (which will most likely be FAR down the road).

Like I said though, I got just one 6600gt. I think I would have to agree that 2x6600gt's isn't the smartest way to go, as upgrading later will have you replacing two cards instead of one, and that is twice the amount of lost money to time/resell price drop. For people that want pretty d#@n nice graphics right now for a lower price and for much better availability however, it would be the only way to go. I can't see the future value of it though, and I don't mind playing games at lower settings as long as they run and run smoothly (which all games do with a single 6600gt).

K, that's just my thoughts on it,
Aipon

 

[nitro28]

The issue is, people buying 6600GTs for the SLi boards are idiots.

Why do people keep arguing about SLI/no SLI and is it really necessary to call people idiots, grow up a little please. Everyone has their own reasons for what they buy. "You buy what you like I'll buy what I like, who cares who ends up with what it doesn't matter. Let's stop all the name calling and just enjoy the many choices we have. Everyone just need to lighten up. The fact is pci-e cards are not available now and who knows when they will be.

 

[smc13]

I bought an SLI board because I am a well paid Sys Admin and have plenty of money.

I bought a 6600 GT because I wanted to see how the motherboard worked with one video card. At some point I'll either buy another 6600 GT or two 6800 GTs just to see how well the motherboard works with SLI. I am having fun with my new toy. How is that idiotic? ;-)

Steve

 

[bob661]

Apparently, dual core processors will work the Asus SLI boards according to the CES AT article. I won't have to upgrade for three years if that's the case.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Its all a matter of personal taste, and what you use your machine for.

Personally I think anyone who would spend $600+ on a video card is an idiot, and 2 x $600= double idiot.

$1200 to get more FPS on a $50 video game, get a freakin life.

The day the nVidia lady steps out of my LCD and peforms some sexual services, I will consider paying that kind of price.

 

[hundesau]

Originally posted by: Robor

And if you want to bitch about cards not being available don't look at Nvidia. ATI still hasn't managed to get their X800XT card to the public. At least Nvidia got some 6800 GT's and Ultra's out there. As far as I'm concerned the X800XT doesn't exist because, like a Unicorn, to this day I've never seen one.

At least here in Europe is isnt a problem anymore to get one of the X800XT PE for 500,-Euros. U can buy it at www.mindfactory.de for instance, good shop btw. BUt of course ur right, my statement was meant to both of the giants, paperlaunches makin me mad.

Originally posted by: smc13
I bought an SLI board because I am a well paid Sys Admin and have plenty of money.

If u like to buy expensive nonsense thats of course an argument which I cant beat with my arguments. Similiar to those who buy P4EE or DDR2, there is alot of crap on the market, expensive and not giving u more performance, but somebody has to buy it and somebody will buy it, jus not me, cuz iam not that stupid and rich .

Originally posted by: Robor
SLI is stupid? Um, no it's not. What's wrong with buying an SLI based motherboard and a single 6800GT for now and another later on when they're more available and cheaper? Those benchmarks don't lie - it's the fastest setup available and will be for some time.

and

Originally posted by: bob661
I'd like to know what SLI motherboard costs over $400. SLI boards are $180 - $220 and 6600GT's are $180 - $200. Both of those are hmmmm $360 - $400!!! Ok. Drop the SLI board and get an Ultra board instead, Gigabyte's Ultra board is $219 right now so you aren't saving anything there but for the sake of argument we'll say $150 because that's how much the DFI Ultra is supposed to cost. Total cost is now $350 for a 6600GT and mobo. That's definitely is not the cost of a 6800GT. Ok. How about two 6600GT's and a SLI board. Cost? $540 - $630. One 6800GT and an Ultra board cost about $550 on paper but in reality cost more like $690ish. A single 6800GT PCIe (if can find one) runs about $400 - $700. If you can get a PCIe 6800GT for $400 then you'll save $80 at the most and pay $10 extra at the least for the video and mobo. Two 6600GT's are the best bet right now. I probably won't buy another 6600GT but I don't doubt the bang for the buck it has right now.

Thats an interesting point, there isnt much variety of pcie cards available. But ur asking the wrong question, dont ask: What pcie i card should i have been buyin, if not a 6600GT? Instead u should ask: If there arent any good and affordable pcie cards out, why buy pcie Board already then? What advantage gives me pcie at this point of time, is it faster maybe? Are there any other pcie cards for other components out yet? Is it really necessary to go with pcie and why not buy a AGP, save some money buyin Nforce3 and invest that into a 6800GT AGP, newegg offers them starting at 360,-$.
Compare that combination (Nforce3 or Kt800pro for 100,-$ + 6800GT for 360,-$) with a nforce4 system: ASUS SLI and 1 or 2 6600GT´s or an unaffordable 6800GT. Well, dont think the pcie system will win so many benchmarks u throw at it, not mentioning all the other disadvantages SLI brings and the money issue. Pcie will of course be the future and its gonna be hard to upgrade the graphics or maybe certain other cards in a year or two, thats a point. But u cant get it all and if best performance for best price is ur gaol, then u wont reach that with a pcie solution within 2005.


Correct me if iam wrong