ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 - Socket 939 HELP

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Hacka

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Hey guys, i just joined this forums becaue it seems like you have some knowledgeable people here. I have been having some problem when i got this new mobo. I used to have DFI infinity with 2400+ mobile and i overclocked that to 2.5-2.6 easily.
I got this mobo 4 days ago and the onboard network did not work for NOTHING, so i went out and bought a NIc card for $20. It runs fine now. :)
I have had alot of problems with overclocking... i had my fsb running smooth at 235.. keep in mind i have cheap-o ram. But it was running good but now it seems i can hardly overclock ir otherwise its unstable and my games have horrible 3 second freeze lag :(

So i went back to defaults and tweaked the memory settings... maybe they are a lil too low right now... but heres my cpu-z report.

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CPU-Z version 1.32.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Code Name Venice
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Family / Model / Stepping F F 2
Extended Family / Model F 2F
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping DH-E6
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2199.8 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
HTT Bus Frequency 200.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2199.8 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer
Motherboard model 939Dual-SATA2, 1.00
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision P1.50
BIOS release date 12/06/2005
Chipset ALI M1695 rev. 00
Southbridge ALI M1563 rev. 70
Sensor chip Winbond 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled

Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 129.4 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/17
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Samsung DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
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Look at that ^^
FSB:DRAM CPU/17
whats that? lol?
I see no options for the divider in the bios and thats really weird.. i want 1:1 right?





Heres some options i have in my bios.. i would like to know what i should change...
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CPU FREQ. 200
PCI-3 FREQ 100
boot failure guard - enabled
spread spectrum - auto
cool n quiet - enabled
Processor multiplier - x10 2000mhz
processor voltage - 1.425v
mem clock - 200mhz (DDR 400)
flexibility option - disabled (i disabled to see if it made a difference.. i dunno)
burst length - 4 beats
cas 3.0
tcrd 3
tras 6
trp 3
ma timings - auto, 1t , 2t
advanced dram config
----read preamble - 9.5ns
----async latency - 11.0ns
cpu-nb link speed - auto
cpu-nb width - auto
nb-sb link speed - auto
nb-sb width - auto
HTT to PCI bridge decode scheme - auto
DRAM voltage - high
gated clock function - disabled


hopefully someone can help me... im a bit confused and the whole HT 1t 2t stuff... i only see that in the "MA timings" option in BIOS.

anyone know the best BIOS to use?

Thanks guys....

 
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professor1942

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We're all too busy pulling this board out and nailing it to a tree in the yard for target practice.

Flexibility option disabled should fix the 133 Mhz problem for you.
 
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Budman

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First thing you need to do is go read the A64 overclocking guide ,overclocking a socket a mobile chip & a A64 is very different. you need to lower your HTT to 4x or 3x because at 235mhz 5x is too much. also learn about memory deviders. ;)
 
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cubeless

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would be odd to have oc options and no htt options... if using cheap ram u need to be using a divider to drop its speed vs the fsb...

can't just crank the voltage and push up the fsb anymore, it takes a bit of work now...

lots of folks have this board and have gotten good results...
 
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Hacka

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my cpu volts max out at 1.45
my ram only says "default" and "high" voltage settings.

are there any modified bios' ?
 
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Hacka

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ok thanks.. i have had my cpu-nb link at 600 i think... is 400 2x? should i try that ?
 
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Hacka

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ok well i lowered my cpu-nb timings to 600

and i lowered my ram to 133... i still cant get higher than 235 fsb.... NEVER

wtf


heres my futuremark2001 score...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8904849

and my current cpu-z report.
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CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Code Name Venice
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Family / Model / Stepping F F 2
Extended Family / Model F 2F
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping DH-E6
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2349.7 MHz
Clock multiplier x 10.0
HTT Bus Frequency 235.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2349.7 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer
Motherboard model 939Dual-SATA2, 1.00
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision P1.60
BIOS release date 01/27/2006
Chipset ALI M1695 rev. 00
Southbridge ALI M1563 rev. 70
Sensor chip Winbond 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled

Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 235.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/10
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Samsung DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
 
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professor1942

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You are running PCIe in Async mode (locked at 100) right? If not, you need to do this or your PCI/AGP bus gets overclocked (not good at all).
 
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Hacka

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i have agp x800xl... i dont see anywhere where i can lock the agp... i have the pci-e at 100 yes
 
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Hacka

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wtf, tweaknow pwerpack told me i dont have HTT ?

heres the report
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Processor
Model: 1x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Code Name:
Socket/Slot: CPUSocket (Other)
Frequency: 2362 MHz
FSB Speed: 200 MHz
Voltage: 3.3 V
Revision/Stepping: 15/2
Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices

Caches
L1 Internal Data Cache: 64 KB
L1 Internal Code Cache: 64 KB
L2 Cache: 512 KB

Multimedia Features
MMX Extensions: Yes
Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE): Yes
Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2): Yes
Enhanced MMX Extensions: Yes
3D Now! Extensions: Yes
Enhanced 3D Now! Extensions: Yes

Other Features
Hyper-Threading Technology: No
Co-Processor FPU Buit-in: Yes
Virtual Mode Extension: Yes
Debugging Extension: Yes
Page Size Extension: Yes
Time Stamp Counter: Yes
Model Specific Registers: Yes
Physical Address Extension: Yes
Machine Check Exception: Yes
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported: Yes
On-chip APIC Hardware Supported: Yes
Fast System Call: Yes
Memory Type Range Registers: Yes
Page Global Extension: Yes
Machine Check Architecture: Yes
Conditional Move (CMOV) Instruction Supported: Yes
Page Attribute Table: Yes
36bit Page Size Extension: Yes
Processor serial number: No
CLFLUSH Instruction Supported: Yes
Debug Store: No
ACPI Technology: No
Fast floating point save and restore: Yes
Self-Snoop: No
Thermal Monitor Supported: No
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professor1942

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HyperThreading Technology(HTT) = Intel systems

Hypertransport Technology(HTT) = Athlon 64 systems

Just to confuse you.

And as long as you set CPU-PCIe to "Async' and keep PCIe at 100, AGP will also be locked.
 
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Hacka

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ok thats what i thought... so how do i overclock more... something is wrong here eh ?
 
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professor1942

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Try a low cpu multiplier like 8x or 9x to rule the cpu out. If cpu and RAM are both underclocked and board still won't go above 235, guess you just got unlucky with the board. (Mine does 245 no problem and I never had a need for anything higher)
 
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stockriderman

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I have the same mobo there's no options that SAYS HTT. This is why its' so confusing to overclock. All other options renamed as well and no one seem to know how anything about overclocking this board.
 
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RollWave

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You have to read up...this board works wonders for me compared to my MSI Neo2 board. I have 9x274 on my venice....gotta love about 2.5ghz out of a 1.8ghz chip!
 
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professor1942

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Now that this board seems to be working again for me, I'm going to see if I can get 2.7 Ghz stable with my 3700+ :)
 
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Hacka

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becasue i raised it back after i got no fsb gain out of it...

heres a screny of 64 tweaker

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professor1942

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Strange, I guess your particular board just doesn't o/c that well.

Still, 235x11 for a 3500+ is pretty good...
 
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