Asrock 274 wall removed!

Navid

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There is a beta Bios, released recently.

It is on this page. It is called 939Dualb7.

I am booting at 295 with no cold boot freeze since last night. This morning, I pressed the power button and it booted up. Any other beta bios I have tried at higher than 274, I needed to press the reset button at a cold start. Not this one!

Try it out.

Some people are having problems with this one too.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/30/6546.html

It seems to be a Bios file from Asrock. When flashing, it does not complain that the file is older than the current Bios, like with the beta1 or beta2.
The CPU frequency is reported correctly too at boot time.


Edit:
Now, I have a warm boot freeze problem.
If I restart, it freezes! If I shut down, it powers up fine after. So, there is still a problem. But, I prefer this to the cold boot freeze.
 

Ike0069

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This is very good news. I've been waiting for OCW to realse a new BIOS that removes the lock.

I actually think that the warm boot problem is what many have been experiencing rather than the cold boot. From reading, it seems that many people (including myself) have the problem where it won't reboot when you hit restart. It just hangs, so you have to actually power down, then it starts up just fine.
 

OvErHeAtInG

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Originally posted by: Navid
There is a beta Bios, released recently.

It is on this page. It is called 939Dualb7.

I am booting at 295 with no cold boot freeze since last night. This morning, I pressed the power button and it booted up. Any other beta bios I have tried at higher than 274, I needed to press the reset button at a cold start. Not this one!

Try it out.

Some people are having problems with this one too.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/30/6546.html

It seems to be a Bios file from Asrock. When flashing, it does not complain that the file is older than the current Bios, like with the beta1 or beta2.
The CPU frequency is reported correctly too at boot time.


Edit:
Now, I have a warm boot freeze problem.
If I restart, it freezes! If I shut down, it powers up fine after. So, there is still a problem. But, I prefer this to the cold boot freeze.

Damn... now I don't want to try it. That was exactly the problem I was having with any ocw bios. Maybe I'll try it anyway.

Also, 939Dual thread in the mobo forum FTW?
 

Navid

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I like this one much more than beta1 and beta2. It is made from 1.7. So, it has all the updates up to 1.7.

The problem I had with beta2 was that every time I powered up the computer, it would freeze. Then, I would have to power down and on the next try, it would come up most of the time. But, if I restarted (warm boot), it would come up most of the time alright.

With this new Bios, I always have a successful power-up from cold. But, when I restart, it freezes.

The way I see it, I do cold start several times a day. But, I do restarts (warm boots) may be 3 times a week. So, I prefer this. Hopefully, they will improve it. For me, this is an improvement.
 

Navid

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There is no warm boot problem either.

If the computer freezes because of too much overclock, just pressing reset will not bring the PC back up. I have to shut down and then power up.

But, if windows is up and running and I click on "Start" and click on "Turn off Computer" and then click on "Restart" in windows, it restarts and comes back up. No problem.

And as I said before, there is no cold boot freeze.

This is a beautiful Bios. I am stable at 304HTT (Opteron 144). I love it!

Of course the 1T problem is still there. I am running at 2T. But, that is nothing compared to the cold boot problem that used to be there!
 

The Batt?sai

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I want to run at 289 fsb and i have ddr 4000 ram (250mhz) what ram divider do i need to use? and if i ran at 317 fsb what divider then too? my chips limit is 2850 on water at 1.5 volts. someone please tell me :)
 

Navid

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
I want to run at 289 fsb and i have ddr 4000 ram (250mhz) what ram divider do i need to use? and if i ran at 317 fsb what divider then too? my chips limit is 2850 on water at 1.5 volts. someone please tell me :)

What is your CPU multiplication factor?
I have Opteron 144. So, mine is 9. 200 x 9 =1.8GHz.

So, the 166 RAM divider gives me 200 x 9 / 166 = 10.8 ~ 11.
The 133 divider gives me 200 x 9 / 133 = 13.53 ~ 14.

So, my RAM runs at CPU/11 when I use 166 and at CPU/14 when I use 133.

When I run at FSB=304, I use the 133 for my RAM. So, I get 304 x 9 / 14 = 195MHz, which is good for me since I have PC3200 (200MHz).
 

Navid

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
its a 9x multipler, an opty 165 :) with ddr 4000 (250mhz ram)

OK. So, you will also get CPU/11 for 166 and CPU/14 for 133.

To run at FSB=289, you can use 166. So, your RAM will run at 289 x 9 / 11 = 236.
To run at 317, you can try 166, which will give you 317 x 9 / 11 = 259MHz. See if your RAM can handle this. If not, you will have to go to 133, which will give you only 317 x 9 / 14 = 203MHz.

But, you need to find your maximum CPU limit. Don't just go by what it is supposed to do. Every chip is different.

Lower your HTT and set the RAM divider to 133. Then, the only bottleneck will be your CPU. Then, gradually raise FSB and at every step run Prime for 15 minutes. Keep going up gradually until you fail. Then back off and run Prime for a longer time preferably overnight. Now, you will know the real limit.
 

The Batt?sai

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i'm just going by what the person i bought the chip from said it could do. he said it was prime stable at 1.5 volts on water at 2850 mhz. I know every motherboard is different, and my asrock satadual939 may not be the best, but I'm hoping for at least 2.6 gigahertz at 1.4 volts on water. Thanks for the info navid :).

so the divider will be listed as 11 in the bios for 166? it doesn't show 166, 133, etc? its a asrock bios. thanks again navid :)
 

Navid

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
i'm just going by what the person i bought the chip from said it could do. he said it was prime stable at 1.5 volts on water at 2850 mhz. I know every motherboard is different, and my asrock satadual939 may not be the best, but I'm hoping for at least 2.6 gigahertz at 1.4 volts on water. Thanks for the info navid :).

so the divider will be listed as 11 in the bios for 166? it doesn't show 166, 133, etc? its a asrock bios. thanks again navid :)

Look in your manual on page 26. You can set the "Memory Clock" to 200, 166 or 133. So, in the Bios, it will show 200 or 166 or 133.
If you set it to 200, your memory will run at what your CPU is running at divided by 9 (CPU/9).
If you set it to 166, your RAM will run at CPU/11.
If you set it to 133, your RAM will run at CPU/14.