ASPI, SCANNER, NT issues

[Lorne]

Im trying to use a Artiscan 1100 scanner on a propriatary printer PC running Win NT.
I have installed Scanwizard and SCSI controllers on 4 previous systems with no problems.
The scanner and controller work fine as I just used and retested them on another system right next to it.

Yes it uses Win NT, The printer software will not run on anything else and is propriatary.

What is happening,, Installed SCSI card, Installed the drivers, SCSI devices shows the card and the scanner hooked up all looks good.
Install Scanwizard, Nether it or the SCSIprobe will run (Maybe get hourglass or a blip on the taskbar), If I uninstall the SCSI driver they will run but cannot find the scanner.

I have tried various version of the SCSI controller drivers and the ASPI drivers, Even old versions as rumor that might be the problem but still the same exact problem.
I have tried older version of the scan software also.
In my opinion it seems to be blocked at the ASPI driver in some way.

I really need help on this, As without it it makes an expensive printer usless.

I really hate NT.

 

[tynopik]

NT in vmware?

better: buy a new scanner

 

[Cerb]

Well, you've tried the obvious, so...
1. Who's ASPI drivers? If the scanner or card came with their own, I wonder if someone else's, like Adaptec's, might work?
2. Is there any reason that the printer must be on the same computer as the scanner? What part is proprietary that sets up this requirement (is it file type, FI?)? I'm wondering if there's another solution.
3. Can you do a clean install of NT 4? Best would be the lowest (or no) service pack level possible.
4. Do you think it might be PCI/ISA issue, like needing to reserve a dedicated IRQ for the SCSI card, or maybe the SCSI card is installed in a slot that isn't bus-mastering? Try verifying that stuff, anyway.
5. Is the motherboard newer than the NT era, such that an old SCSI card might be looking for 5v, but be in a mobo only supplying 3.3v (I'm really reaching here, and not 100% sure this is even a possible problem)?

 

[Lorne]

This is to do a uniformity on the printer btw.

The printer is Gretag, They have been out of business for years now, They designed there control software propriatary under NT and the intel 810 chipset, It has serial numbers that are spacific to the CRT hence propriatary.
(I hate asshat programmers that design like that)
Reinstalling NT over can and trying to get the printer data back in is like a 20/80 fail.

On this system I have tried a adaptec 2903,2930 and a 2940, All 3 are good and work with the other printer setup right next to it, The scanner is fine.
The controllers install fine, Drivers, ASPI, Fine and test fine.
Not IRQ dedicated.
Ive tried all types of ASPI drivers and even copied from a working system and the resualts are always the same.

I was told to try and use one of the working systems on the printer just for uniformity perposes, But I dont need it to alter data on a good working system,, but,,,
I can copy the HDD and move it to the none conforming one and try,,,,But I just hit another wall,, I tried to install Maxblast to dupe the drive and it says I have to have servicepack 6 installed which it already does,, Its always something to slow me down.

 

[alkemyst]

Sounds like termination or channel issues...verify those.

 

[Cerb]

I tried to install Maxblast to dupe the drive and it says I have to have servicepack 6 installed which it already does,, Its always something to slow me down.

Linux is your friend, especially live CDs.

 

[Lorne]

Thanks for the help and idea peeps, Ive found out several things to do that got me around it.

1. Found out that the updated scanner software was missing some .DLL's that are not native in NT but did come with the factory scanner software that we didnt have. (solved)

2. Found the propriatary files for the printer and copied them to a working clone of a working system.
Running uniformity now.

Thanks again.