Asking questions of strangers regarding adoption -- ever think about what you're asking?

AndrewR

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My wife and I adopted a beautiful little girl from China a couple years ago who just turned three on Monday. It's hard to believe that she's grown so much, and two years have passed already!

Anyway, since we're white, it's obvious that she's adopted. We're constantly amazed at the audacity of people asking questions about the adoption. My wife tends to be diplomatic, but I'm fairly hostile about it because it's just not appropriate. Why ask someone, "Can you not have kids of your own?" Keep in mind that fertility issues are extremely emotional, for obvious reasons, and I've also italicized part of the question to emphasize that the implication is that an adopted child is not your own child.

So, are people just ignorant and displaying it for the world when they ask these questions? I can hardly come up with something more personal than reproductive questions except maybe walking up to someone near the condoms and asking them about their favorite sexual act.

I guess the purpose of the thread is to get some awareness to people that questions like this are not welcome when they are not diplomatic. We are more than happy to answer questions regarding the adoption, but not along the lines of "How much did she cost?" (real question). Since my daughter is now comprehending nearly everything spoken around her and asking questions about it, I will now be even less diplomatic if I hear anything like that. Use your head, be polite, and be mindful that the little person is very much a part of the family in question, is just a child, and understands English quite well. In fact, our daughter speaks at a higher level than most kids her age who have heard English their entire lives.

Our favorite one so far? A cashier at Target said to us, "Wow, she has quite a tan!" Uh, she's from Hunan Province and is quite obviously not Caucasian. We wondered what the cashier was going to say to the extremely dark black man that was entering as we left!
 

Lalakai

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we've adopted 3 and have never had questions of that type. Even while fostering children that were obviously different from us, we didn't get any really dumb questions. Some friends of ours who also adopted came up with great terminology; they call their kids "cotton and polyester".

don't let it bother you; if it does, there might be some other issues that are kind'a lurking in your mind that are making you so sensitive about it.
 

bennylong

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Originally posted by: AndrewR


Our favorite one so far? A cashier at Target said to us, "Wow, she has quite a tan!" Uh, she's from Hunan Province and is quite obviously not Caucasian. We wondered what the cashier was going to say to the extremely dark black man that was entering as we left!

Well, that's what you get for living in Ohio. I lived in Michigan for 3 years and I used to get little girls going "Chonk Chonk Chong Chinaman" while I'm standing outside. Or college kid screaming out their car window telling me to go back to my own country.

 

dawnbug

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This is kind of unrelated, but can I ask why you chose foreign adoption over domestic? Not domestic as in the stereotypical pregnant teenager wanting to give her baby up for adoption, but domestic as in the public sector?

But yes, people do ask pretty dumb questions about adoptions-- my parents have adopted four kids and they get a lot of them too.
 

Aztech

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Yeah, my ex-wife and I are contemplating getting back together. She now has a 1 year old boy that she made with a black man in a one night stand. I've been thinking about having to deal with questions and comments like that if we get back together. I think I worry too much what others think, but I can't help it.
 

JS80

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Well, can you not have kids of your own?? I KEED I KEED.

In college I took this film class and the professor showed us a documentary made by a Korean American film student who was adopted by a Caucasian family through Korea. Basically it was about his life and his journey to find an identity and he ended up going to Korea to find his family...the entire class was in tears by the end.

Interestingly, he said that as he was growing up, he didn't even realize that he was different from his brothers/sisters and classmates. In fact he said he thought he was white.

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Nathan Adolfson
Passing through

He says, ?Growing up, I used to think we were the perfect American family, till I realized that I was adopted.?

During his stay in Korea, Adolfson reunites with his three biological siblings. During the reunion, discomfort and cultural barriers are apparent. Though biologically tied, Adolfson is still a stranger to his sister and two brothers, a case that is often true in adoption reunions.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Lalakai
we've adopted 3 and have never had questions of that type. Even while fostering children that were obviously different from us, we didn't get any really dumb questions. Some friends of ours who also adopted came up with great terminology; they call their kids "cotton and polyester".

don't let it bother you; if it does, there might be some other issues that are kind'a lurking in your mind that are making you so sensitive about it.

It bothers me because I don't want my daughter to start thinking that she's not our daughter. The racist implications of it (not always the case, but it is there) also make me sensitive to stupid questions.

Well, that's what you get for living in Ohio. I lived in Michigan for 3 years and I used to get little girls going "Chonk Chonk Chong Chinaman" while I'm standing outside. Or college kid screaming out their car window telling me to go back to my own country.

I am beginning to suspect you're right about Ohio. Ok, I KNOW it's a redneck state, and Dayton especially seems to have its fair share of morons. However, there are PLENTY of adopted Chinese girls running around, though we notice them because we're more aware than most for obvious reasons.

That being said, thanks for the encouragement that our need to deal with this garbage should only last as long as our stay in Ohio, which ends next year thankfully!
 

FatJackSprat

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My wife and I are trying to have children without success, which I was discussing with someone. I know the person, but we're not best friends or anything.

Anyway, he said something along the lines of: "You can't adopt because you never know what you'll get"

I'm adopted and, in my opinion, I've done very well for myself so far.

We should all just learn to keep our stupid questions and opinions to ourselves unless we're with close friends or family members.

 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
This is kind of unrelated, but can I ask why you chose foreign adoption over domestic? Not domestic as in the stereotypical pregnant teenager wanting to give her baby up for adoption, but domestic as in the public sector?

But yes, people do ask pretty dumb questions about adoptions-- my parents have adopted four kids and they get a lot of them too.

It boils down to a few things. First, domestic adoption is never guaranteed, and many, many adoptions fall through at the last minute. Second, there is a six month period (might vary by state) when the birth mother (parents? not sure) can change her mind about the adoption and take her child back. Talk about devastating. Third, domestic adoptions can be exceedingly expensive even if you don't end up finding a child simply because lawyers are involved. Fourth, we're a military family and were living in Japan at the time that we initiated the adoption process so we figured that we would not be great candidates for a domestic adoption. International was a solid option, and we were only living a few hundred miles from China at the time. Fifth, the fact that a little child needs a family trumps any consideration about domestic versus international for us.

I'm not leveling this accusation at you by any means, but I cannot understand why people think that domestic children are somehow superior to children abroad. Ok, I CAN understand it based on racism or some odd form of nationalism, but it seems exceptionally petty when talking about children in need of a home.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
My wife and I adopted a beautiful little girl from China a couple years ago who just turned three on Monday. It's hard to believe that she's grown so much, and two years have passed already!

Anyway, since we're white, it's obvious that she's adopted. We're constantly amazed at the audacity of people asking questions about the adoption. My wife tends to be diplomatic, but I'm fairly hostile about it because it's just not appropriate. Why ask someone, "Can you not have kids of your own?" Keep in mind that fertility issues are extremely emotional, for obvious reasons, and I've also italicized part of the question to emphasize that the implication is that an adopted child is not your own child.

So, are people just ignorant and displaying it for the world when they ask these questions? I can hardly come up with something more personal than reproductive questions except maybe walking up to someone near the condoms and asking them about their favorite sexual act.

I guess the purpose of the thread is to get some awareness to people that questions like this are not welcome when they are not diplomatic. We are more than happy to answer questions regarding the adoption, but not along the lines of "How much did she cost?" (real question). Since my daughter is now comprehending nearly everything spoken around her and asking questions about it, I will now be even less diplomatic if I hear anything like that. Use your head, be polite, and be mindful that the little person is very much a part of the family in question, is just a child, and understands English quite well. In fact, our daughter speaks at a higher level than most kids her age who have heard English their entire lives.

Our favorite one so far? A cashier at Target said to us, "Wow, she has quite a tan!" Uh, she's from Hunan Province and is quite obviously not Caucasian. We wondered what the cashier was going to say to the extremely dark black man that was entering as we left!
I can see how some of the questions wear on you, but just realize most people have good intentions when they comment or ask. Sometimes they don't know what to say and just speak before thinking. Don't be short with them especially when your daughter is around for you are teaching her by your actions.

How lucky you are to have that little girl. :)

 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: AndrewR
My wife and I adopted a beautiful little girl from China a couple years ago who just turned three on Monday. It's hard to believe that she's grown so much, and two years have passed already!

Anyway, since we're white, it's obvious that she's adopted. We're constantly amazed at the audacity of people asking questions about the adoption. My wife tends to be diplomatic, but I'm fairly hostile about it because it's just not appropriate. Why ask someone, "Can you not have kids of your own?" Keep in mind that fertility issues are extremely emotional, for obvious reasons, and I've also italicized part of the question to emphasize that the implication is that an adopted child is not your own child.

So, are people just ignorant and displaying it for the world when they ask these questions? I can hardly come up with something more personal than reproductive questions except maybe walking up to someone near the condoms and asking them about their favorite sexual act.

I guess the purpose of the thread is to get some awareness to people that questions like this are not welcome when they are not diplomatic. We are more than happy to answer questions regarding the adoption, but not along the lines of "How much did she cost?" (real question). Since my daughter is now comprehending nearly everything spoken around her and asking questions about it, I will now be even less diplomatic if I hear anything like that. Use your head, be polite, and be mindful that the little person is very much a part of the family in question, is just a child, and understands English quite well. In fact, our daughter speaks at a higher level than most kids her age who have heard English their entire lives.

Our favorite one so far? A cashier at Target said to us, "Wow, she has quite a tan!" Uh, she's from Hunan Province and is quite obviously not Caucasian. We wondered what the cashier was going to say to the extremely dark black man that was entering as we left!
I can see how some of the questions wear on you, but just realize most people have good intentions when they comment or ask. Sometimes they don't know what to say and just speak before thinking. Don't be short with them especially when your daughter is around for you are teaching her by your actions.

How lucky you are to have that little girl. :)

SOME people have good intentions, but others are just stupid. I don't mind the questions or comments with good intentions, but the others set me off. I have little tolerance for idiocy. ;) Your point is well taken though, and my wife tells me the same thing.

I'm EXCEPTIONALLY lucky to have that little girl, but sometimes I have to remind myself when she's being really bratty! :D
 

jhayx7

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Well, you killed my question...

There is a good bit of age difference between me an my wife (me 23 she 30). We do not want kids right now but we are thinking about adoption if we decide to have one in 5+ years. Too many kids out there that need a home, now my question was about the cost. I heard it is very expensive to adpot (around 10-15k). Now, that wouldn't be a problem if we were to adpot but would you suggest start saving now?

Congrats to the both of you for the experience!
 

amddude

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Lalakai
we've adopted 3 and have never had questions of that type. Even while fostering children that were obviously different from us, we didn't get any really dumb questions. Some friends of ours who also adopted came up with great terminology; they call their kids "cotton and polyester".

don't let it bother you; if it does, there might be some other issues that are kind'a lurking in your mind that are making you so sensitive about it.

It bothers me because I don't want my daughter to start thinking that she's not our daughter. The racist implications of it (not always the case, but it is there) also make me sensitive to stupid questions.

Well, that's what you get for living in Ohio. I lived in Michigan for 3 years and I used to get little girls going "Chonk Chonk Chong Chinaman" while I'm standing outside. Or college kid screaming out their car window telling me to go back to my own country.

I am beginning to suspect you're right about Ohio. Ok, I KNOW it's a redneck state, and Dayton especially seems to have its fair share of morons. However, there are PLENTY of adopted Chinese girls running around, though we notice them because we're more aware than most for obvious reasons.

That being said, thanks for the encouragement that our need to deal with this garbage should only last as long as our stay in Ohio, which ends next year thankfully!

Ohio is not a redneck state. Second, being a redneck does not make you clueless. My dad's family has tons of rednecks that love my adopted sister from Guatemala, so go STFU.

My family hasn't really had any issues with my sister when going out in public. The funniest thing is when we go to chinese restraunts, because she looks almost asian. They repeatedly ask us if she's chinese LOL. I had one step-great-grandpa that was an ass about my rents doing it, so they just told him they weren't going over to his place anymore. (I'm not not adopted)

Some people just don't know how to shut their mouths, that's the problem. Just train your kids to ignore that kind of BS and they'll be fine.
 

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
I can see how some of the questions wear on you, but just realize most people have good intentions when they comment or ask. Sometimes they don't know what to say and just speak before thinking. Don't be short with them especially when your daughter is around for you are teaching her by your actions.

How lucky you are to have that little girl. :)

I just want to echo this sentiment. Lots of times things just don't come out of your mouth the way they are intended. Adoption is still a pretty rare event, and international adoptions even rarer. People really are ignorant of the situations, but not malicious about them. A lot of us say things that we mean with the best intentions, but they come across as being just flat out dumb. Part ignorance, part just being caught off guard.

And when we know we say something stupid, instead of smearing our face in it by admitting that we just said that, it's easier to just shuffle it under the rug and forget it was ever muttered.

:)