Asking for a raise and saying if dont get it you will quit, is that fair?

[KrillBee]

Has anyone ever been in this situation? Where their current job just isnt paying enough, they are a contractor and want to be an employee, etc.

Suppose the whole compensation package influenced your decision of whether u wanted to stick around or not.
I suppose you could just ask for a raise and quit if you didnt get it. But wouldn't the employer want to know that you might quit if you didnt get the raise?

But if you mentioned the quitting possibility earlier, it would be rude to make it seem like a threat that you'd quit if you didnt get a raise, right?

 

[XZeroII]

If you don't get the raise, then you'd better be prepared to quit or else I'd fire you very quick.

 

[EagleKeeper]

If you are going to let them know that you will quit if no raise; then back it up.

They will start looking for a replacement even if you do not follow through - you have shown that you are disastified and the client will know that they need to start backfilling.

 

[Kadarin]

It makes you look unprofessional. Just ask for the raise based on merit, and if you don't get it, consider your options.

 

[spidey07]

I confused?

You are a contractor and you want a raise from your current employer?

Or you are a contractor and have been asked to become an employee of the client but you feel their offer isn't up to your requirements?

If the latter then that is common.

 

[NickelTitanium]

discuss the terms ahead of time. if you have to ask, usually it won't be great.

 

[Wheezer]

As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

 

[alrocky]

Fair is not the issue. Do you already have better employment lined up elsewhere?

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I confused?

You are a contractor and you want a raise from your current employer?

Or you are a contractor and have been asked to become an employee of the client but you feel their offer isn't up to your requirements?

If the latter then that is common.

i was told by them that they want to keep me around long term, but then they never made an offer to hire me as an employee. im still a contractor. they have a lot of people who do the same thing i do but are employees and are compensated better.

they should have made me an offer right now, but havent.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Have you told them that you enjoy working there and want to become a full-time employee?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: KrillBee

Originally posted by: spidey07
I confused?

You are a contractor and you want a raise from your current employer?

Or you are a contractor and have been asked to become an employee of the client but you feel their offer isn't up to your requirements?

If the latter then that is common.

i was told by them that they want to keep me around long term, but then they never made an offer to hire me as an employee. im still a contractor. they have a lot of people who do the same thing i do but are employees and are compensated better.

they should have made me an offer right now, but havent.

That's unusual. Normally the contractors are compensated better than employees.

You are free to ask for a raise from your current employer. Threatening to quit however would be a terrible move. Contractors are the easiest replacable resource their is. You could be replaced in a week or two.

As a contractor you generally take greater compensation at the risk of job security.

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: alrocky
Fair is not the issue. Do you already have better employment lined up elsewhere?

no i dont. and im not thinking about quitting next week, but maybe in a month or so.

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Have you told them that you enjoy working there and want to become a full-time employee?

nope. they made an offer to a student worker before they made an offer to me. that disgusts me.

Originally posted by: spidey07


That's unusual. Normally the contractors are compensated better than employees.

You are free to ask for a raise from your current employer. Threatening to quit however would be a terrible move. Contractors are the easiest replacable resource their is. You could be replaced in a week or two.

As a contractor you generally take greater compensation at the risk of job security.

my hourly wage is similar to what id make if i were an employee for this company, but i get no benefits, and i have my own taxes and stuff.

 

[idiotekniQues]

i work for a company that provides IT staffing for a variety of companies and the team I am on is for IBM.

IBM is cheap-o with how they pay IT contractors let me tell you.

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

except....

You sought me out, and offered me the job
you screwed up my pay raise last year
you underpay me/over work me
there are companies lined up asking me to come interview.


Happened this year, I got ~25% pay raise.


Not that I threatened to quit, It was just review time and when they put a number out for a raise, I said "I am thinking more about right here" and threw that number out. They said "great, done" and we finished lunch and got back to work. I like my job, but did feel underpaid (and my boss knew I was too) and they made up for it this year, no haggle/fuss. Around here, you CAN'T just replace someone, especially someone highly technical and entrenched in your company. There are just not many tech workers looking, except those chasing more money from company to company, and you know they won't last 3 projects. It's getting incredibly difficult to find talent here locally. My company knew it, I knew it, they took care of me, and I take care of them.

 

[DoorNo3]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

Wow, you must be a prick to work for.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: DoorNo3

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

Wow, you must be a prick to work for.

Great first post. :thumbsup:

 

[IGBT]

..market conditions will decide your future.

 

[gsethi]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

:thumbsup:

and to OP, prepare to get FIRED if you tell that to your employer. Hopefully, you have a backup before you say that to your employer.

As an employer, if any of my employee comes up to me like that, I would be handing that employee his/her final paycheck 5 min before he/she is scheduled to get off that same day.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: DoorNo3

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

Wow, you must be a prick to work for.

Great first post. :thumbsup:

He/She must have signed up just to post that. :laugh:

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Have you told them that you enjoy working there and want to become a full-time employee?

nope. they made an offer to a student worker before they made an offer to me. that disgusts me.

Why? They know your a contractor and are likely to f0ck off sometime soon. At least with the student he'll stay for at least a year and most likely two.

Don't threaten them. That would indicate your a t!t. Negotiate a raise and if you don't get it, look for a job else where and go for that job.

Thats what I did with my last job. I was prepared to go if I didn't get my range. The company knows that I'm a valued worker and gave me my nice raise. Another sweet job came along so I took that and left anyway but if you don't ask you don't get.

A lot of my colleagues at my last job would settle for what they were given. Always negotiate if you have skills.

Koing

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: KrillBee

Originally posted by: alrocky
Fair is not the issue. Do you already have better employment lined up elsewhere?

no i dont. and im not thinking about quitting next week, but maybe in a month or so.

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Have you told them that you enjoy working there and want to become a full-time employee?

nope. they made an offer to a student worker before they made an offer to me. that disgusts me.

hahah that should let you know what the are going to say.


oh and wheezer had it right. you come saying if we don't give you a raise you are quiting i would say ok thank you. we will talk to managment about it. then find someone to replace you. IF we can deal without you i would just tell you to beat it.

 

[BoomerD]

If you're stupid enough to tell them, "I want a raise or I quit," then you'd better have another job to start the next day...Odds are, you're gonna get fired , either on the spot, or by the end of the day. IF they don't fire you, then they'll be waiting to see if you have the balls to back it up...and if you DON'T, they'll pwn you...

As others here have said, there are ways to ask for a raise, but that ain't one of them...

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: DoorNo3

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

Wow, you must be a prick to work for.

Great first post. :thumbsup:

He/She must have signed up just to post that. :laugh:

Which makes it that much better. :laugh:

 

[mattocs]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
As a supervisor, I have had plenty of employees come to me and tell me that "if I don't get more money, I am going to quit and go somewhere else"....my response?

Don't let the door hit your ass one the way out.

Asking for a raise is understandable. There is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Threating to quit if you don't get it...well there is grounds for termination in my eyes right there.

Exactly who the hell do you think you are and how valuable do you think you are that I cannot replace you?....after all when you submitted your resume, or application...YOU came to ME...remember?

You asked me for a job first...I never knocked on your door, and when we sat down for an interview I laid it all out for you including the pay...you agreed and here we are...and now after giving you an opportunity you threaten me?

get the fvck out....I will find someone else.

been down that road many a time...generally speaking the ones that pull this crap weren't much to start with anyway.

How much do supervisors at McDonnalds get paid now a days?

 

[jadinolf]

I have done it and I didn't have to quit.

Long story short - they made a promise and did not keep it.

I was bluffing but if I didn't get the raise (which was sizable) I was prepared to walk.